No offence taken at all,just glad that you brought the matter up for me,hence the next photo of the same bird!The second photo here has pretty natural colours, i.e. is not over- (or under-)saturated. The two photos (as photos) are very different in this regard. No offence.
Thank you Brian for your help with this matter.Excellent articles included !!!My gut reaction to first photo is of Siberian Buff-bellied. The plain lores, well-defined super, neat oval spots on pale buff underparts extending to rear flanks, leg colour, indication of dark centres on mantle...
The photo does have artefacts, but corrected this still seems interesting. But can coutellii Water be ruled out?
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Hi SteveI must admit I thought the two photos show different birds: look at the wing bars and head pattern. And my first thought was the original one showed a coutelli Water Pipit, but I am not sure what a summer eastern Buff-bellied would look like.
See also Jason's subsequent post:
If this is the bird as above then the rasping call sounds like it was a coutellii Water Pipit and NOT japonicus B-b Pipit.
PeterI am a bit confused about which of the photos posted here are being questioned an which have truly been solved, but surely the photo in post #1 shows a (Siberian) Buff-bellied Pipit and not coutellii Water Pipit, with such a pale lore (as pale as the supercilium), complete eyering, long, bold supercilium and small, dark bill?