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<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 3697505" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p><strong>Adolphe and Héloïse Boucard</strong></p><p></p><p>In my MS I (only) have him as <strong>Adolphe Boucard</strong> (<strong>1839-1905</strong>), French traveller, ornithologist, entomologist, feather trader (and of other <em>Naturalia</em>), collector, ... and onwards ... "who died 15 March 1905, at the home of his Son, in Hampstead, outside London - at the age of 66."</p><p></p><p>He´s commemorated in (for example):</p><p>● Slaty-breasted Tinamou <em>Crypturellus</em> (<em>erythropus</em>) <em>boucardi</em> SCLATER 1859/1860 (ex Sallé MS) a k a "Boucard Tinamou" or "Boucard's Tinamou" (in Swedish; earlier "<em>Boucards tinamo</em>", today <em>skiffertinamo</em>)</p><p>● Boucard's Wren <em>Campylorhynchus jocosus </em>SCLATER 1860 a k a "Boucard's Cactus-wren" (<em>boucardgärdsmyg</em>, in Swedish)</p><p></p><p>Those are the only ones of "his" birds, included in my MS (of Swedish Common names).</p><p></p><p>Boucard (and some other guys) was earlier dealt with (back in 2014) in the thread <em>Three contradictory statements in some various books and articles </em>(<a href="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2969300&postcount=1" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, <a href="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2969457&postcount=3" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, <a href="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2969701&postcount=6" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, <a href="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2969835&postcount=10" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a> and <a href="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2975587&postcount=24" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>). Note that today's <em>Key</em> (still) claim Boucard died in 1904! </p><p></p><p>In any case; this far I´ve seen no record, until Martin's post #37, of anyone claiming his second (first) name being <em>Gabriel</em>. On the other hand; I´ve seen nothing saying it couldn´t have been, as no other suggestion has surfaced. Boucard is mentioned (in various, loads of texts) simply as Adolphe Boucard (but as we all know, middle names are often left out, however true they might be).</p><p></p><p></p><p>And: Good work, Martin and Laurent, on the earlier little-known:</p><p></p><p><strong><em>heliosa</em></strong> as in:</p><p>● the tiny Bumblebee Hummingbird (<em>Trochilus</em>)<em> Atthis heloisa</em> LESSON & DELATTRE 1839 (<a href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/19515#page/23/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>) as "<em>O</em>. [<em>Ornismya</em>] <em>Heloisa</em>" a k a "<em>O.-M. Héloïse</em>" (= <em>Oiseaux-Mouche Héloïse</em>, in French) ... no dedication, nor any explanation (from what I can tell).</p><p></p><p>... which very well could commemorate Héloïse Josephine Boucard (1811-1893)</p><p></p><p>Constant progress! </p><p></p><p><u>Disclaimer</u>: This said; without having anything about her in my MS, thereby she´s not checked at all by me, with very little to add.</p><p></p><p>Today's <em>HBW Alive Key</em> explain this eponym as:</p><p></p><p></p><p>But ... do we know, for sure, that she was the "wife"/"comon-wife" of Boucard? </p><p></p><p>To me, by the mere look if it (maybe being prejudiced?), by the years, it looks more like his Mother?!</p><p></p><p>A shared address, with Adolphe Boucard (that Laurent pointed out in #38), wouldn´t, in such a position, be all that odd.</p><p></p><p>Or have this matter (she) been dealt with earlier? And solved? In yet another thread?</p><p></p><p>Björn</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 3697505, member: 113430"] [b]Adolphe and Héloïse Boucard[/b] In my MS I (only) have him as [B]Adolphe Boucard[/B] ([B]1839-1905[/B]), French traveller, ornithologist, entomologist, feather trader (and of other [I]Naturalia[/I]), collector, ... and onwards ... "who died 15 March 1905, at the home of his Son, in Hampstead, outside London - at the age of 66." He´s commemorated in (for example): ● Slaty-breasted Tinamou [I]Crypturellus[/I] ([I]erythropus[/I]) [I]boucardi[/I] SCLATER 1859/1860 (ex Sallé MS) a k a "Boucard Tinamou" or "Boucard's Tinamou" (in Swedish; earlier "[I]Boucards tinamo[/I]", today [I]skiffertinamo[/I]) ● Boucard's Wren [I]Campylorhynchus jocosus [/I]SCLATER 1860 a k a "Boucard's Cactus-wren" ([I]boucardgärdsmyg[/I], in Swedish) Those are the only ones of "his" birds, included in my MS (of Swedish Common names). Boucard (and some other guys) was earlier dealt with (back in 2014) in the thread [I]Three contradictory statements in some various books and articles [/I]([URL="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2969300&postcount=1"][U]here[/U][/URL], [URL="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2969457&postcount=3"][U]here[/U][/URL], [URL="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2969701&postcount=6"][U]here[/U][/URL], [URL="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2969835&postcount=10"][U]here[/U][/URL] and [URL="https://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2975587&postcount=24"][U]here[/U][/URL]). Note that today's [I]Key[/I] (still) claim Boucard died in 1904! In any case; this far I´ve seen no record, until Martin's post #37, of anyone claiming his second (first) name being [I]Gabriel[/I]. On the other hand; I´ve seen nothing saying it couldn´t have been, as no other suggestion has surfaced. Boucard is mentioned (in various, loads of texts) simply as Adolphe Boucard (but as we all know, middle names are often left out, however true they might be). And: Good work, Martin and Laurent, on the earlier little-known: [B][I]heliosa[/I][/B] as in: ● the tiny Bumblebee Hummingbird ([I]Trochilus[/I])[I] Atthis heloisa[/I] LESSON & DELATTRE 1839 ([URL="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/19515#page/23/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL]) as "[I]O[/I]. [[I]Ornismya[/I]] [I]Heloisa[/I]" a k a "[I]O.-M. Héloïse[/I]" (= [I]Oiseaux-Mouche Héloïse[/I], in French) ... no dedication, nor any explanation (from what I can tell). ... which very well could commemorate Héloïse Josephine Boucard (1811-1893) Constant progress! [U]Disclaimer[/U]: This said; without having anything about her in my MS, thereby she´s not checked at all by me, with very little to add. Today's [I]HBW Alive Key[/I] explain this eponym as: But ... do we know, for sure, that she was the "wife"/"comon-wife" of Boucard? To me, by the mere look if it (maybe being prejudiced?), by the years, it looks more like his Mother?! A shared address, with Adolphe Boucard (that Laurent pointed out in #38), wouldn´t, in such a position, be all that odd. Or have this matter (she) been dealt with earlier? And solved? In yet another thread? Björn [/QUOTE]
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