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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CliveP" data-source="post: 3389380" data-attributes="member: 85835">My 10x25 Endurance actually is about the same size and weight as my RSPB 8x20 HD. The 8x20 is slightly smaller and packs away slightly smaller in the pouch it came with and it's a great binocular which surprised me how useful it was over distance with really excellent resolution and a nice big view for it's size. Both can be a bit tricky with eyeplacement. It comes with the territory of small bins. The slightly larger eyecups on the Endurance help some.I find them sort of similar due to their size and weight but I find I use the Endurance more maybe because of the 10x mag as a change from my normal 8x usage and it is very good in how it snaps into focus and I do think I prefer the focus wheel at the eyepiece end. Then I have the 7x18's if I want to jump down to true pocketable or the monocular. I'd love a good 7x18 folding roof. The Sunagor would be that if it had waterproofing and better glass/coatings/prisms mostly the prisms. Almost like a mini 7x18 ultravid with 8 deg fov. Both of the 7x18 would fit in an average shirt pocket without folding. I wouldn't recommend the Sunagor as it's not up to scratch clarity wise but it is easy to use and get eyeplacement so I really do want to get a better one of those someday if somebody ever bothers to produce one. I think I saw an old Zeiss model in that size so they have existed and could really be done well with the current glass and coating technologies.I think it is good to have several options to choose from and currently I have about 10 bins of all different sizes but it took me about a year to collect most of them. I tried the one good alpha route in the past but I definitely prefer the bunch I have now as I do get tired of using the same bin regularly and the performance you get for much less alpha money is still excellent.  My Kowa SV 8x32 for example. Sometimes or perhaps in fact often I actually feel that I enjoy it more than I did the alphas I owned. I showed it to another guy at the lake the other day and that's another person that it made sit up and do the wow thing.  "what magnification is that?", "who makes that?", "how much is that?", where'd you get that?", "I can use that so easily", "it's not that heavy", etc etc are some of the various responses I recall from people who try it.I will add though that it did seem odd having the big Kowa neoprene strap around my neck after having used mostly compacts of late but definitely more towards full size comfortable viewing than any compact and on that occasion definitely worth bringing along but I could have survived with any of the compacts also. I have a few different places that I will visit regularly and I can choose which bin I think will work best for each location or just choose a different one for an interesting change and of course I've always got plenty of spares.Just took a shot of some of the compacts. Seems that the Carson wins on size and it's the lightest. Both 7x18's have a wider view than the RSPB 8x20 which has the standard 119m fov. I like the Sunagor even though it's the least clear of the three and I would use it on a day out to the zoo or parade or something maybe but I'd be better off with the Carson in reality.</blockquote>

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