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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CliveP" data-source="post: 3413478" data-attributes="member: 85835">I have two 8x20 now. the RSPB HD and Pentax DCF ED and both have the finicky bug and yet I do like both bins for colour, clarity, contrast, low distortion, low CA, decent size view, and good resolution but I honestly view the finickiness as a sort of fault and I say this as I also have a 6.5x21 Pentax Papilio which isn't in the least bit finicky so why do they make these 8x20's so awkward to use?I really really don't get it. WHY, WHY WHY ????????????????????????????Probably pushing some limit to increase eyerelief but as a non-spectacle user I would be happy if they would knock it off in exchange for some ease of eyeplacement.I had the Hawke 8x25 Sapphire ED and it was no better either with eye placement (despite the larger exit pupil) and barely if at all any better in low light although my Hawke 10x25 Endurance is better. Oh and my Viking Vistron 8x25 is super easy to use and slightly better in lower light than the others (except the Papilio which is the best in that regard) but it is the most bulky.I still find the cheap Carson 8x22 Scout reverse porro something of a champion in real world use over the above and it's my light choice take along. I keep imagining all these people who know nothing about bins and bought one of those and don't realise that they have a cheap Chinese thrown together  bin that actually can be more effective than these fancy lens multiple times more expensive bins or in the case of the Leica and Swaro,  about 18x more expensive. £500 divided by £27. Actually 18.5x. Having said that the alphas may well outlast 18.5 of the Carsons but my 8x22 is still going strong, actually my Carson 7x18 MiniScout also. I probably will have to get the 10x25 Scout to complete the set although that is getting  a little out of the really light and compact range.</blockquote>

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