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<blockquote data-quote="Chosun Juan" data-source="post: 3383701" data-attributes="member: 92780"><p>Bruce,</p><p></p><p>:t: Thanks for the interesting read, particularly the magnesium hazards now faced by firies! It seems that the binocular industry is a bit backwards when it comes to the use of advanced materials, no CFRP as yet (Honda used it on the early 90's production NR750 .... fascinating read here: <a href="http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_nr750.htm" target="_blank">http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_nr750.htm</a> ) and the 'plastic fantastic' Corvette has now arrived at a similar destination - another insightful read here: <a href="http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2012/Aug/0816_corvette.html" target="_blank">http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2012/Aug/0816_corvette.html</a></p><p></p><p>Further, Honda has plans to introduce a production CFRP monocoque floorpan by the end of the decade: <a href="http://www.motoring.com.au/tokyo-motor-show-lightweight-bodies-for-honda-from-2020-40087/" target="_blank">http://www.motoring.com.au/tokyo-motor-show-lightweight-bodies-for-honda-from-2020-40087/</a></p><p></p><p>Of course, over at Lamborghini, Ferrari, and Boeing, etc, these things have been happening for quite some time ......</p><p>Cost factors are purely a matter of scale economies, and when you consider the Billions and Billions of $ invested in traditional Unitary Steel Monocoque research, design, learning, processes and facilities and supply chains to get to the current point, then any cost imposts of CFRP are a spurious nod to the past at best. o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The amount of actual material that would be used in a binocular chassis is so infinitesimal in comparison that the expense could easily be absorbed within existing profit margins and ROI. As I have often mentioned before, the Zeiss 8x32 FL would be an ideal candidate to get the CFRP ball rolling (no optical carnage intended Brock! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> :eek!:</p><p></p><p>AFAIK Leica is the only mass market company to be using Titanium hinge shafts in their UVHD+ binoculars at least, again, considering the small amount of actual material involved, you would think that such an innovation would be <em> de riguer</em> in the industry ..... :cat:</p><p></p><p>Perhaps less money spent on all the completely useless marketing guff, and a bit more spent on actual materials and performance innovation would see superior products actually selling themselves ..... what a radical (though hardly original or CrAzY <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> concept! :brains:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Chosun :gh:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chosun Juan, post: 3383701, member: 92780"] Bruce, :t: Thanks for the interesting read, particularly the magnesium hazards now faced by firies! It seems that the binocular industry is a bit backwards when it comes to the use of advanced materials, no CFRP as yet (Honda used it on the early 90's production NR750 .... fascinating read here: [url]http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_nr750.htm[/url] ) and the 'plastic fantastic' Corvette has now arrived at a similar destination - another insightful read here: [url]http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2012/Aug/0816_corvette.html[/url] Further, Honda has plans to introduce a production CFRP monocoque floorpan by the end of the decade: [url]http://www.motoring.com.au/tokyo-motor-show-lightweight-bodies-for-honda-from-2020-40087/[/url] Of course, over at Lamborghini, Ferrari, and Boeing, etc, these things have been happening for quite some time ...... Cost factors are purely a matter of scale economies, and when you consider the Billions and Billions of $ invested in traditional Unitary Steel Monocoque research, design, learning, processes and facilities and supply chains to get to the current point, then any cost imposts of CFRP are a spurious nod to the past at best. o:) The amount of actual material that would be used in a binocular chassis is so infinitesimal in comparison that the expense could easily be absorbed within existing profit margins and ROI. As I have often mentioned before, the Zeiss 8x32 FL would be an ideal candidate to get the CFRP ball rolling (no optical carnage intended Brock! :) :eek!: AFAIK Leica is the only mass market company to be using Titanium hinge shafts in their UVHD+ binoculars at least, again, considering the small amount of actual material involved, you would think that such an innovation would be [I] de riguer[/I] in the industry ..... :cat: Perhaps less money spent on all the completely useless marketing guff, and a bit more spent on actual materials and performance innovation would see superior products actually selling themselves ..... what a radical (though hardly original or CrAzY :) concept! :brains: Chosun :gh: [/QUOTE]
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