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Problem with green coating of EL SV 8x32 (2 Viewers)

If so many people had not experienced the same armore problem, I would have said that it was just an unfortunate incident that was unfairly brought to the attention of the public. But this is not the case. I have not heard as many cases of disintegrated armor, even with all binoculars brands taken together, as I heard with Swarovski binos... Why other top binoculars (and many other even cheaper brands), know how to make a armor without this incidence of problems?!? But at Swarovski we observe, even if the percentage is very small in relation to the total number of Swaro binoculars in the world, an alarming rate of reported cases in our binocular comnunity. Swaro itself stated this issue in emails, but not officially.
Officially, on their website they have never written anything about any problem with their armor. So Swarovski officially does not recognize the problem (except in some email exchanges). So, when the new armor appears, we don't expect it to be announced on the official website either. Only on emails to different people!
Why there is no unique and official Swaro position regarding to this armor issue ?
may be that because:
1-
it is a shameful design flaw, which cannot be written so easily on the official page, especially when "they are in top of the mountain".
2- also because these cases with armor problems are isolated, and Swaro ignores them! But are isolated only because they appear in certain countries with certain conditions of humidity, combined with a certain human PH. It's a design flaw that only affects users who weren't lucky enough to live in mild climate countries or have the right PH. This problematic armor may be ok in temperate climates, or when you rarely use binoculars, only on holidays (the case of most of the people). But the MINORITY that use binoculars intensively in all climates and varied conditions like a pro, are disadvantaged!!! This is also be the explanation that most cases of broken armor are reported mostly here on BF, not on other forums. Because here is a large and diverse community that can give more binoculars feedback use in the field in different conditions than, say, those on astronomy forums. We report our intensively experience with binoculars more often than others, therefore most cases are logically reported here mostly on this forum in an alarming number in our BF community (from 65 EL bino 29 have bad armor bino) Poll - Trying to get some numbers on Swarovski rubber armour issues.
It is shameful for a very expensive binoculars company, that should work flawlessly in any climate or PH, like a real professional binocular not like a cheapest ones. We are talking about thousands of euros binoculars, not cheapest ones!
 
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Good rhetorical question!! Obviously not! It is only the Swarovski armor that is sensitive as a newborn baby's skin!
Not true, most plastics/coatings are ruined by DEET, for those who can read, there is even a warning on the DEET package about this. Most armor from other brands will be ruined also when they are frequently in contact with DEET, just a matter of time. Not only Swaro is suffering from this.
 
Not true, most plastics/coatings are ruined by DEET, for those who can read, there is even a warning on the DEET package about this. Most armor from other brands will be ruined also when they are frequently in contact with DEET, just a matter of time. Not only Swaro is suffering from this.
But only Swaro have this poor percentage of incidence here on our forum: 29 from 65 EL bino have armore issues. Poll - Trying to get some numbers on Swarovski rubber armour issues.
And there are people who don't use DEET and their Swaro armor still broke. So it is a design error that causes degradation in some normal conditions of use. And this was observed in our active community.
And it is clear that we are not talking about a total percentage on the globe, but only of active BF Swaro users. But, even so, this is worrying and upsetting for some extremely expensive binoculars that should not have this high incidence of armor problems on our forum. It is clearly a problem from the factory, otherwise acknowledged indirectly in some emails, by the fact that they said they will change the chemical formula in the future.
 
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Not true, most plastics/coatings are ruined by DEET, for those who can read, there is even a warning on the DEET package about this. Most armor from other brands will be ruined also when they are frequently in contact with DEET, just a matter of time. Not only Swaro is suffering from this.
Maybe a timely reminder for some, that you have bought a pair of Swarovski binoculars, not given birth to them.
 
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Not true, most plastics/coatings are ruined by DEET, for those who can read, there is even a warning on the DEET package about this. Most armor from other brands will be ruined also when they are frequently in contact with DEET, just a matter of time. Not only Swaro is suffering from this.
i've only seen Swarovski with this problem on this site
 
Not true, most plastics/coatings are ruined by DEET, for those who can read, there is even a warning on the DEET package about this. Most armor from other brands will be ruined also when they are frequently in contact with DEET, just a matter of time. Not only Swaro is suffering from this.
Any reports of DEET or otherwise-induced armour failures for other brands? Am genuinely interested to know.
 
Wow, 9 out of a total of how many thousand SVs, impressive.
It's pretty obvious there have been a lot more than 9 incidents. Do you know "how many thousand" SVs have actually been sold? How many hours do you put on any one of your Swaros in a year?

Maybe a timely reminder for some, that you have bought a pair of Swarovski binoculars, not given birth to them.
Ah, but the value of "investments" and collections needs to be preserved at all costs...
 
Any reports of DEET or otherwise-induced armour failures for other brands? Am genuinely interested to know. DEET is harmful for all plastics, Rubber coatings and even coatings on Glasses.
Plenty, most armor/plastic/rubber is not DEET resistant. That's common knowledge, although it seems nice to blame only Swarovski for it, I guess. In fact, for some people it seems to be somewhat of an obsession because it's the only thing they post about...
 
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The way to ensure your favourite company keeps striving to produce better and better products isn't to try and downplay their mistakes.
That's just telling them you'll buy any rubbish as long as it has the logo.
You're smarter than that, aren't you?

You should be giving them the hardest time of anyone here.
 
The way to ensure your favourite company keeps striving to produce better and better products isn't to try and downplay their mistakes.
That's just telling them you'll buy any rubbish as long as it has the logo.
You're smarter than that, aren't you?

You should be giving them the hardest time of anyone here.
I'd rather go birding and use those excellent bino's...
 
Think there are less Bino's with armor problems then there are posts on BF about it....
here on BF people report problems with Swaro armor for the simple reason that they are active and have problems with Swarovski armor (most of them don't use DEET). The more specialized a forum is, the more reports of the forum members are to be taken seriously, as is the case with BF. Here in our BF community 29 users have experienced the EL armor problem and 36 users have not.
This 44% it is very very big percentage incidence of this armor issue. Of course, it's only about our site, not the planet. But, especially since it's our forum, it should be taken into account because here we use binoculars regularly, and we have not seen this incident before with other brands on BF. There are too many cases to refuse evidence. Why don't we have at least 5 cases (I'm not saying 29) with other brands of binoculars on BF ? ....because the problem is only with the Swarovski armor!
The fact that you don't have a problem with EL armor shows that you are part of the 34. But it doesn't mean that 29 users are responsible for this issue, as they don't know how to care binoculars, and in the end you say they must go more birding!
 
Plenty, most armor/plastic/rubber is not DEET resistant. That's common knowledge, although it seems nice to blame only Swarovski for it, I guess. In fact, for some people it seems to be somewhat of an obsession because it's the only thing they post about...
Show some examples then. Instead of just adding to the number of posts abt armor problems
 
here on BF people report problems with Swaro armor for the simple reason that they are active and have problems with Swarovski armor (most of them don't use DEET). The more specialized a forum is, the more reports of the forum members are to be taken seriously, as is the case with BF. Here in our BF community 29 users have experienced the EL armor problem and 36 users have not.
This 44% it is very very big percentage incidence of this armor issue. Of course, it's only about our site, not the planet. But, especially since it's our forum, it should be taken into account because here we use binoculars regularly, and we have not seen this incident before with other brands on BF. There are too many cases to refuse evidence. Why don't we have at least 5 cases (I'm not saying 29) with other brands of binoculars on BF ? ....because the problem is only with the Swarovski armor!
The fact that you don't have a problem with EL armor shows that you are part of the 34. But it doesn't mean that 29 users are responsible for this issue, as they don't know how to care binoculars, and in the end you say they must go more birding!
My goodness..... You should go birding also....
 
I'm thinking the binoculars go birding and take you. Your relationship with them seems, how shall we put it, distorted?! :)
No, on the opposite. I'm one of the few here who's has a normal relationship with his bino. Use them as often as possible, clean them up once in a while and enjoy nature instead of nagging about armor issues the hole day.... and guess what: no armor issues whatsoever! ;)
 
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