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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrankD" data-source="post: 1279745" data-attributes="member: 18544">Come on now Arthur. Two miles? You bought those beautiful little 8x32 FLs from Doug. What would another bike ride really cost you? It would be good exercise. [<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />]FWIW, I spoke to Doug today about the regular Elites. He did say they were a step down from the ELX EDs. However, for the price he thought they offered respectable performance....also, all the new Promaster models are up on Cameralandny's website now.Tero,I think you have a legitimate concern with the warranty issue. But, as Kevin pointed out, they are basically a "No Fault-we will fix it" type of warranty and Promaster has been in the optics business for some time. Also consider we are talking about Doug here. If the manufacturer doesn't treat you right then I would be willing to bet that Doug will. I also would have a hard time believing that he would deal with a company that does not treat their customers well. He told me a story today about his working with them on redeveloping a popular tripod design. He must have some influence with them to pull that kind of activity.Just my two cents but I still really enjoy the Promater Elite ELX EDs. There is no comparison between them and the Celestron Ultima DX 8x32s. The ED's image is brighter with more contrast and moderately sharper in the center of the field. The Ultima's is slightly wider and gives slightly more of a 3D effect because of the porro design but those are the only two optical issues where they actually beat the ELX EDs.</blockquote>

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