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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Surveyor" data-source="post: 1290083" data-attributes="member: 50720">Frank, when i get them back in hand and have a chance to use them in the open and in the woods I will post more on the impressions. So far I have been impressed with the optics and not particularly fond of the ergonomics. I find them too narrow for my hands at my IPD of 64 mm, with both thumbs going under the opposite tube from the hand, i.e. right thumb goes all the way under left tube and my finger overlaps the focus knob almost at the middle joint, a little more than I care for. Somewhat to narrow to place my fingers between the tubes. So far I have to grip them with my right hand aft and left hand forward. I am sure I can get used to it for the view. Since I have done nothing but check parameters, I have really not formed any opinions yet about FOV, sweet spot, pointing speed or rolling ball etc. although first impressions are very positive. Let me drag them around for awhile next weekend (I generally only use compacts at work thru the week) and I will get back to you. Have a good day.Ron I have only had them out hand held for a few minutes. I want some time in the woods trying to pick birds out of the dark branches, look at Jupiter, get them in the open with different lighting conditions before really forming much of an opinion</blockquote>