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<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 3237245" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p>I don´t know either way … now I´m all confused on <em>mascarin</em>.</p><p></p><p>In any case; according to Wiki's entry on the "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mascarene_parrot" target="_blank"><u>Mascarene parrot</u></a> or Mascarin", it was first mentioned by the French traveller <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieur_Dubois" target="_blank"><u>Sieur Dubois</u></a> in 1674 (<a href="https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JORaAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA170&hl=sv#v=onepage&q&f=false" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>), the Parrots are dealt with on p.172+. </p><p></p><p>Also see; <em>Appendix C</em>, p.135+, <em>Appendix D</em>, p. 138+ and <em>Appendix E</em>, p. 141+(<a href="https://archive.org/stream/voyagesmadebysi00boisgoog#page/n223/mode/2up/search/Parrot" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>) where this bird is (among other names) called "<em>Mascarinus Duboisi</em>" (Compare the HBW Alive Key entries for <a href="http://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-to-scientific-names-in-ornithology?name=Mascarinus" target="_blank"><em><u>Mascarinus</u></em></a> and <a href="http://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-to-scientific-names-in-ornithology?name=duboisi&=Apply" target="_blank"><em><u>dubouisi</u></em></a>). Also note all the other pages where this parrot (and others) are mentioned in the same book. </p><p></p><p>And; <a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=8xXSBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA177&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=P8mHVbSUKYKuswGU44PYBA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, <a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=BAJHAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA171&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=Y8qHVdnXAYm2swHw2YmoAQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, <a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=j8hbOr2pdjYC&pg=PA354&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=-cqHVaPiLsKbsAHv-oi4DA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, <a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=pyNiZqOosTMC&pg=PA248&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=-cqHVaPiLsKbsAHv-oi4DA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a> and <a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=f9SvYPVV5TgC&pg=PA9&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=GsyHVZTGCYKlsgHXy6moAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a> ("<em>La Réunion est dénommée Mascarin vers 1512</em>").</p><p></p><p>If of any help?</p><p></p><p>Sorry for not being able to bring any clarity on this one. Hopefully you sharper minds, with better linguistic skills, understand more than I do.</p><p></p><p>Björn</p><p></p><p>PS. On top of that <em>Mascarin </em>was apparently a ship (in the 1770's) and a surname. Sigh! In any case I feel pretty sure it has nothing to do with the Indian word <em>Maskarin </em>[one who carry a Bamboo staff (<em>maskara</em>)]. Not even the most unique parrot has been known to do that. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p><span style="color: White">---</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 3237245, member: 113430"] I don´t know either way … now I´m all confused on [I]mascarin[/I]. In any case; according to Wiki's entry on the "[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mascarene_parrot"][U]Mascarene parrot[/U][/URL] or Mascarin", it was first mentioned by the French traveller [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieur_Dubois"][U]Sieur Dubois[/U][/URL] in 1674 ([URL="https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JORaAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA170&hl=sv#v=onepage&q&f=false"][U]here[/U][/URL]), the Parrots are dealt with on p.172+. Also see; [I]Appendix C[/I], p.135+, [I]Appendix D[/I], p. 138+ and [I]Appendix E[/I], p. 141+([URL="https://archive.org/stream/voyagesmadebysi00boisgoog#page/n223/mode/2up/search/Parrot"][U]here[/U][/URL]) where this bird is (among other names) called "[I]Mascarinus Duboisi[/I]" (Compare the HBW Alive Key entries for [URL="http://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-to-scientific-names-in-ornithology?name=Mascarinus"][I][U]Mascarinus[/U][/I][/URL] and [URL="http://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-to-scientific-names-in-ornithology?name=duboisi&=Apply"][I][U]dubouisi[/U][/I][/URL]). Also note all the other pages where this parrot (and others) are mentioned in the same book. And; [URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=8xXSBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA177&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=P8mHVbSUKYKuswGU44PYBA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false"][U]here[/U][/URL], [URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=BAJHAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA171&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=Y8qHVdnXAYm2swHw2YmoAQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false"][U]here[/U][/URL], [URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=j8hbOr2pdjYC&pg=PA354&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=-cqHVaPiLsKbsAHv-oi4DA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false"][U]here[/U][/URL], [URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=pyNiZqOosTMC&pg=PA248&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=-cqHVaPiLsKbsAHv-oi4DA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false"][U]here[/U][/URL] and [URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=f9SvYPVV5TgC&pg=PA9&dq=mascarin&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=GsyHVZTGCYKlsgHXy6moAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mascarin&f=false"][U]here[/U][/URL] ("[I]La Réunion est dénommée Mascarin vers 1512[/I]"). If of any help? Sorry for not being able to bring any clarity on this one. Hopefully you sharper minds, with better linguistic skills, understand more than I do. Björn PS. On top of that [I]Mascarin [/I]was apparently a ship (in the 1770's) and a surname. Sigh! In any case I feel pretty sure it has nothing to do with the Indian word [I]Maskarin [/I][one who carry a Bamboo staff ([I]maskara[/I])]. Not even the most unique parrot has been known to do that. ;) [COLOR="White"]---[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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