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[Nutcracker]

Rails: The former Gray-necked Wood-Rail, Aramides cajaneus now goes as Gray-cowled Wood-Rail / Gray-necked Wood-Rail, Aramides cajaneus, with the former English name used by both the AOS NACC and SACC, and the latter used by IOC.

Nope: Grey-necked Wood Rail in IOC, without the grammatic barbarism of a hyphen followed by a capital, and with the regular spelling of grey :t:

 

[njlarsen]

In the part of the world that this bird occurs, Gray is the regular spelling -- as we have discussed a number of times before

Niels

 

[Nutcracker]

In the part of the world that this bird occurs, Gray is the regular spelling -- as we have discussed a number of times before

Don't think so - the only English-speaking area in the species' range is Guyana, which (as far as I know) uses UK spellings :t:

 

[njlarsen]

Just to mention one example: there are in existence Spanish language field guides for Ecuador, but as far as I know they use English names for the birds, adhering to the AOU spelling. I am not sure, but I have the feeling Spanish language field guides are missing in several other countries, and the English language guides again adhere to AOU spelling.

Niels

 

[Peter Kovalik]

IOC Updates Diary Aug 31

Revise genera of Porzana, Zapornia, Amaurornis crakes

 

[Peter Kovalik]

Coturnicops exquisitus

Heim, W., Trense, D., Heim, A., Kamp, J., Smirenski, S. M., Michael Wink and Wulf, T.: Discovery of a new breeding population of the Vulnerable Swinhoe's Rail Coturnicops exquisitus confirmed by genetic analysis. Bird Conservation International. 29, 454-462 (2019).

The genetic distance from existing GenBank samples to our sample might indicate there is an undescribed species of rail in Japan that has so far been mistaken as Swinhoe’s Rail. Alternatively, samples might have been mixed up, and the Japanese sample might refer to another rail species. We are confident that we have indeed sampled Coturnicops exquisitus, based on a) the plumage (see photos in Figure S1 and in Wulf et al. 2017), and b) the occurrence of our samples as a sister species to the closely related C. noveboracensis in the phylogenetic tree (whereas the Japanese sample seems to be more closely related to the genus Laterallus)

pdf here

 

[l_raty]

Garcia-R JC, Lemmon EM, Lemmon AR, French N. 2020. Phylogenomic reconstruction sheds light on new relationships and timescale of rails (Aves: Rallidae) evolution. Diversity 12(2): 70.
https://doi.org/10.3390/d12020070

(With thanks to Fred, who posted more details [here].)

 

[l_raty]

Inter alia:

• 'Crex' egregia sister to Rougetius, not close to Crex crex
• Lewinia striatus confirmed in Lewinia, not in Gallirallus
• 'Gallinula' angulata confirmed sister to Gallinula + Fulica (with Tribonyx sister to this whole group)
• Rufirallus viridis sister to Micropygia and outside of Laterallus (castaneiceps not sampled; viridis is the type of Rufirallus)
• 'Atlantisia' confirmed embedded in Laterallus
• Zapornia confirmed as a distinct group (flavirostra, fusca & parva sampled)
• Gallicrex sister (and actually quite close) to Amaurornis phoenicurus + moluccana (olivacea -- the type of Amaurornis -- not sampled)
• 'Amaurornis' marginalis sister to this group, thus cannot be in Amaurornis (Gallicrex has precedence over Amaurornis)
• 'Amaurornis' cinerea sister to Megacrex (with these two sister to the previous group), thus cannot be in Amaurornis either

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

I won't be surprised if further studies show the relationship between Laterallus ruber and Rufirallus viridis

 

[andrew147]

Inter alia:

• 'Crex' egregia sister to Rougetius, not close to Crex crex
• 'Amaurornis' marginalis sister to this group, thus cannot be in Amaurornis (Gallicrex has precedence over Amaurornis)
• 'Amaurornis' cinerea sister to Megacrex (with these two sister to the previous group), thus cannot be in Amaurornis either

Great to finally have info on Rougettius.

So, three monospecific genera:

Crecopsis for egregia
Aenigmatolimnas for marginalis
Poliolimnas for cinerea

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

[*]Gallicrex sister (and actually quite close) to Amaurornis phoenicurus + moluccana (olivacea -- the type of Amaurornis -- not sampled)

But sampled by Slikas and al. (2002) and Boast and al. (2019), with different results

 

[l_raty]

But sampled by Slikas and al. (2002) and Boast and al. (2019), with different results

You may want to re-read this: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=3829633#post3829633

 

[Nutcracker]

Garcia-R JC, Lemmon EM, Lemmon AR, French N. 2020. Phylogenomic reconstruction sheds light on new relationships and timescale of rails (Aves: Rallidae) evolution. Diversity 12(2): 70.
https://doi.org/10.3390/d12020070

(With thanks to Fred, who posted more details [here].)

Interesting paper, but as mentioned on the other thread - why are the figure annotations so unreadably small?

...(olivacea -- the type of Amaurornis -- not sampled)

One would've thought that sampling the types of each genus was an essential in studies like these - yet so often, they're omitted?

 

[gusasp]

This must be the first confirmation that the New Guinea Rallicula rails are flufftails?

 

[Mysticete]

Interesting paper, but as mentioned on the other thread - why are the figure annotations so unreadably small?



One would've thought that sampling the types of each genus was an essential in studies like these - yet so often, they're omitted?

I can't speak for rails, but sometimes holotypes are in hard to access collections, or even if easy to access, may have strict prohibitions against sampling. Or the holotype could be in less than great condition, someone may already be sampling it and SLOWLY taking there time on their own study, or even lost.

 

[Nutcracker]

I can't speak for rails, but sometimes holotypes are in hard to access collections, or even if easy to access, may have strict prohibitions against sampling. Or the holotype could be in less than great condition, someone may already be sampling it and SLOWLY taking there time on their own study, or even lost.

Sorry, I didn't mean holotypes of species, I meant including the type species of each genus in the study - so in Amaurornis (as per Laurent's note), the type species A. olivacea should be included :t:

 

[Peter Kovalik]

IOC Updates Diary June 1

Revise sequence and genera of Rallidae based primarily on Garcia-R et al. (2020); with modifications from Kirchman (2012); Garcia-R et al. (2014); Boast et al (2019); Stervander et al. (2019).

Move four species formerly assigned to Rallina in Rallidae to Rallicula in Sarothruridae. (Livezey 1998; Garcia-R et al. 2020).

 

[Peter Kovalik]

What really annoys me is that the supplementary files are in zip format, the only thing I don't know how to use.

Try WinRAR or WinZIP.

 

[THE_FERN]

Try WinRAR or WinZIP.

Built - in support in recent Windows editions (just double - click), otherwise, suggest 7-zip better:

https://www.7-zip.org/

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

I have never been able to use these widgets WinRar thingumajig, that's why I deleted my comment