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raptor ID (Northen Greece) (1 Viewer)


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I think maybe a falcon species and not an Accipitriformes species, because of the wing shape?? (I also cant find any Accipitriformes species that have such pale primaries, unless that is a plumage deformity? very unlikely) I saw this flying over a marsh around sea level. It flapped rather than soar. I saw it in a town near thessaloniki, greece. It is probably just a eurasian kestrel (and im overthinking it), because we have them in the area, but i just wanted to be sure because the tail looks really dark.


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A female Marsh Harrier, but apparently not an adult. Such dark under wing coverts and the facial pattern are actually characteristics of a young bird. When exactly did you take the recordings?


Alexander Stöhr

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Agree with Vollmeise, that such a quite uniform dark bird and the exact shade of the cream-yellow tone to the head is better for a juvenile bird, so a 2 cy bird, if taken recently?

I havent much experience with ageing/sexing of Marsh Harrier. Tom and others, please help!

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