raptor ID (Northen Greece) (1 Viewer)

[Dimitra_v]

I think maybe a falcon species and not an Accipitriformes species, because of the wing shape?? (I also cant find any Accipitriformes species that have such pale primaries, unless that is a plumage deformity? very unlikely) I saw this flying over a marsh around sea level. It flapped rather than soar. I saw it in a town near thessaloniki, greece. It is probably just a eurasian kestrel (and im overthinking it), because we have them in the area, but i just wanted to be sure because the tail looks really dark.

 

[PYRTLE]

1st image is suggestive of a female Marsh Harrier.

 

[Butty]

Marsh harrier

 

[aeshna5]

Agree with female/imm Marsh Harrier.

 

[Vollmeise]

A female Marsh Harrier, but apparently not an adult. Such dark under wing coverts and the facial pattern are actually characteristics of a young bird. When exactly did you take the recordings?

Cheers

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Agree with Vollmeise, that such a quite uniform dark bird and the exact shade of the cream-yellow tone to the head is better for a juvenile bird, so a 2 cy bird, if taken recently?

I havent much experience with ageing/sexing of Marsh Harrier. Tom and others, please help!

 

[Pavel]

A female Marsh Harrier, but apparently not an adult. Such dark under wing coverts and the facial pattern are actually characteristics of a young bird. When exactly did you take the recordings?

Cheers

Agree with everyone, YFMH.