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Message: <blockquote data-quote="macrourus" data-source="post: 1144241" data-attributes="member: 43747"><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />   Well, I'm looking at a different video then, as I can't see so many wingbeats to rely on, at most few sparsed wing moviment in a lazy way... and not an active powerful flyght to judge "deepr more porwerful wing beats... MOST probably indeed a Goshawk, and structure as deep cheasted looking, wing shape, tail shape and lenght are all ok for goshawk... but are all sure ?  and are you all even sure the second bird its the same and not something else?  Good, then my PC screen its very low quality and loose.. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />I've indeed seen some raptors around  <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> and just want to advise about the hard job to rely doubtless in such videos and photos and with too confidence ...  on Rarities Committee for examples, never too much rely on similar stuff. :-(ciaoAndrea Corso</blockquote>