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Murat Kocas

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Hello,

Could you please help me to identify this raptor?

Photo is shot in Serengeti/Tanzania on 20.07.2017

Regards

Murat Kocas
 

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Deb Burhinus

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Europe
Structurally (I can only see the thumbnails on my mobile) it’s reminiscent of Lesser Spotted Eagle - (non-breeding/imm) but it’s a difficult to make much sense of underwing plumage and I’m not 100% sold by any means.
 

tconzemi

Tom
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Structurally (I can only see the thumbnails on my mobile) it’s reminiscent of Lesser Spotted Eagle - (non-breeding/imm) but it’s a difficult to make much sense of underwing plumage and I’m not 100% sold by any means.
I'd agree with that, especially with the 2 white crescents visible at base of outer primaries
 

Deb Burhinus

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I'd agree with that, especially with the 2 white crescents visible at base of outer primaries
You can see more than I can - it’s practically a silhouette in the thumbnails I’m looking at (not sure why I can’t open the images?) but thanks for the verification.
 

Deb Burhinus

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should be easier on the mobile
It should be but I’m having a glitch thats stopping me from downloading/opening up images at the moment- it might be a memory issue. I can’t open the thumbnails so can’t see what is clearly visible to me just from the thumbnail alone of your enlargement.

I’m not questioning the ID obviously - as I said, on structure alone, I thought it was LSE.
 

exilipes

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Thanks.

Wahlberg's was my immediate impression, with protruding head too.

I note the photo was taken in July - I wouldn't have expected Lesser Spotted to be in Tanzania then but haven't checked and may well be wrong (?)
 

Deb Burhinus

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Thanks.

Wahlberg's was my immediate impression, with protruding head too.

I note the photo was taken in July - I wouldn't have expected Lesser Spotted to be in Tanzania then but haven't checked and may well be wrong (?)
Many Immature/non-breeding Lesser Spotted Eagles stay in Africa during the Northern breeding season so not sure why you would be particularly surprised at a July record - movements in Africa are not that well documented but it seems perfectly feasible to me.

FWIW The tail seems rather short and full to me and the bill looks a bit large in the OP too (Wahlberg’s have long necks but small bill)

cf LSE
Note the longer/heavier bill

Small bill of Walberg’s is easier to see on pale bird

I am able to access the larger version of the images now - the underwing does show that double comma that Tom pointed to this morning however, the plumage is still not definitive for me.
 
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exilipes

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No real reason. Probably reflects my lack of knowledge of LSE and the area the photo was taken. I think of LSE as a summer migrant to the north, wintering in Africa
 
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