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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Himalaya" data-source="post: 1542144" data-attributes="member: 56069">By surprise anything could happen.  What if the 2 birds came face to face in an equal setting?  Would the Goshawk still be stronger?   Gyrfalcons have much longer wingspan too.  I dont see why a female Goshawk would not be able to subdue a G B B Gull,  but would a male?   I think he would be able to but then GBB Gulls are large birds almost eagle sized and have very long wings.  They have strong bills with a powerful bite too i believe.  If the Gull was on the ground then judging by the way i see Gulls behave when they are fed by humans I would not be surprised if a large Gull could overpower most BOP - they seem to  be able to pull very well and have no problems with  scrums like rugby players.  A bird like GBB Gull can kill most ducks, Ibis and the not much smaller Herring Gull on its own but has been recorded in nests of peregrine falcons which I assume killed them through stooping.</blockquote>