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<blockquote data-quote="l_raty" data-source="post: 1360116" data-attributes="member: 24811"><p>There are two issues here.</p><p></p><p>One is that this is a gene tree, not a taxon tree, and the taxon tree could be different. It would be vastly better to have this tree complemented with nuclear data, preferably from a few different genes, to see if these show a congruent pattern. With mtDNA only, the conclusion cannot go beyond the fact that <strong>the mtDNA of</strong> <em>carolinensis</em> may not be the closest relative of <strong>the mtDNA of</strong> <em>crecca</em>.</p><p></p><p>The other is that the tree offers no measure of support, so we cannot know to which extent the branching pattern is solid. However:</p><p>- This tree shows that the mtDNA of most American <em>A. (crecca)</em>, most Eurasian <em>A. (crecca)</em>, and most Argentinian <em>A. flavirostris</em> segregate into three distinct clusters (note the single Russian sample among the American samples, though - but of course we don't know how this bird looked).</p><p>- There are published analyses, based on other mtDNA genes (cyt-b and ND2; e.g. <a href="http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Auk/v116n03/p0792-p0805.pdf" target="_blank">http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Auk/v116n03/p0792-p0805.pdf</a>), that included much fewer birds but showed exactly the same branching pattern, and in these analyses the branching pattern was strongly supported.</p><p>Considering these two sources of evidence together, I think it is rather safe to say that the branching pattern, as you see it in the barcode tree, must be solid.</p><p></p><p>Laurent -</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="l_raty, post: 1360116, member: 24811"] There are two issues here. One is that this is a gene tree, not a taxon tree, and the taxon tree could be different. It would be vastly better to have this tree complemented with nuclear data, preferably from a few different genes, to see if these show a congruent pattern. With mtDNA only, the conclusion cannot go beyond the fact that [B]the mtDNA of[/B] [I]carolinensis[/I] may not be the closest relative of [B]the mtDNA of[/B] [I]crecca[/I]. The other is that the tree offers no measure of support, so we cannot know to which extent the branching pattern is solid. However: - This tree shows that the mtDNA of most American [I]A. (crecca)[/I], most Eurasian [I]A. (crecca)[/I], and most Argentinian [I]A. flavirostris[/I] segregate into three distinct clusters (note the single Russian sample among the American samples, though - but of course we don't know how this bird looked). - There are published analyses, based on other mtDNA genes (cyt-b and ND2; e.g. [url]http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Auk/v116n03/p0792-p0805.pdf[/url]), that included much fewer birds but showed exactly the same branching pattern, and in these analyses the branching pattern was strongly supported. Considering these two sources of evidence together, I think it is rather safe to say that the branching pattern, as you see it in the barcode tree, must be solid. Laurent - [/QUOTE]
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