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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RussB" data-source="post: 1754458" data-attributes="member: 75301">Ok gents, thanks for the advice - I need to dabble, but not like Gadwall!Here's stuff from recent forays. Barnacle Geese and BHG's. The Barnies were likely feral but what shapes and contrasts! I find feeding geese very difficult -it's that darn neck! (and I thought egrets were hard enough!) The shorter the neck, it seems the harder they are. The curve of the neck and how it joins the body nearly always evades me. Very rough, these, but when I get one near enough -whoa, get in there! A noticeable improvement, anyway.Bhg's throwing all kinds of shapes whilst displaying - and several sheets needed to get something like. Hope there's never a paper shortage or I'll be sketching on the back of a fag packet like Richard Richardson!Ps - thanks for the links, Tim</blockquote>