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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RussB" data-source="post: 1761278" data-attributes="member: 75301">These comments are very much appreciated, but rather humbling. I don't know how much past experience of a species plays a part when sketching them. Last year at Pugney's I must have stood in the cold for over three hours trying to capture the grazing poses ( yes I did ponder whether I was feeling ok!), and every sketch I did I started by trying to get the angle of the forehead right in relation to the chin (which I now realise is almost streight when side-on) and the curve of the hind neck. Again, in Oct I did the same thing, this time from the relative comfort of a hide but still struggled. I reckon I made several hundred attempts at grazing wigeon last year, then. Something must have stuck!I'm awaiting your wigeon portraits now, Tim.Phil, note the darker, smudgy effects? That's me trying out wet media - my finger end and tongue! gotta start somewhere, mate!I'm off to Morroco on Thurs for eight days or so and I hope to get in a bit of sketching - not wigeon though!CheersRuss</blockquote>