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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MacGee" data-source="post: 1271252" data-attributes="member: 44532">Kitty, If your Veranos focus down to 1.8m as they should, that's not bad. Better than the top 8x32s of Zeiss, Leica, Swarovski and Nikon. I was trying out the RSPB BG PC 8x32s today (same as the Veranos) and I thought the CF was pretty good. But CF is one of those things that seem to be subject to quite sizeable individual variation. I have a pair of 8x25 reverse porros that are suposed to have a 2.5m CF—but mine go down to 1.5m. I also have a 6x30 porro which has a specified CF of 5m. Some people claim that theirs go down to 3m but, if anything, mine are longer than 5m.Michael</blockquote>