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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steven Astley" data-source="post: 673144" data-attributes="member: 15646">Cheers for that Andrew. The male lesser redpolls I saw in summer were paler than the ones I see in winter and the ones posted on here are nearly always in winter and late autumn. What did strike me was there was pale rump but less extensive than mealy which fits in with what you say.Also flank streaking was not very distinctive. This feature slipped through the net of both of 3 written sources and my memory that I was using. I did know this feature but forgot!To sum up my waffle, however messy the redpoll situation is my little problem is solved. I am now comfortable the birds I saw were most likely typical worn male lessers. Thanks very much Andrew ATB Ste</blockquote>