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Review: Maven B2 9x45: Has the $1,000 game just changed?
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<blockquote data-quote="brocknroller" data-source="post: 3178329" data-attributes="member: 665"><p>Steve,</p><p></p><p>If Maven can duplicate the test results of the Conquest HD, that would be the best marketing they could do, better than their "mountain town" mumbo jumbo. I was really impressed with that video. It's comforting to know that if I'm out birding on gamelands and a hunter shoots at pheasants or turkeys and misses, the Conquest will absorb the buckshot. :eat:</p><p></p><p>That link is what I posted earlier, but I had to turn on four cookies in order to make the options work. It's amazing how many options there are, you can even make different colored ocular rings or objective rings on ether side, though why anyone would want asymmetrical coloring is a mystery. </p><p></p><p>I made my B2 all black since I don't like shiny surfaces on my bins for aesthetic reasons and because they glint in the sun. The only thing I like two-toned are women in bikinis and 1950s cars. I call the all black B2, the Stealth. The only part I colorized was the "M" logo, which looked cool in red.</p><p></p><p>You can make any of the options black or gray/silver without charge. For the armor, they offer FIVE styles of camo, which will cost you $50 to $100 extra, depending on the pattern. Alas, no pinko camo for ladies and socialists. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>The funny thing about your remarks about ME seeing the world through chromatically aberrated glasses is that I was thinking the same thing about YOU when I read your dismissive post about CA, that you see the world through ED glasses.</p><p></p><p>I thought the fact that so many companies offer ED glass now and that all the alphas top models have it, and the experts weighed in on why companies added it to roofs would have persuaded you otherwise. As to all the engineers and industry people you polled, what do you expect them to say? Yes, our binoculars do have chromatic aberration, we need to add ED glass, but we're afraid the extra cost will drive customers away? I think we need to do a BF poll on CA. Do you see it, yes or no. If you see it, does it bother you? However, it's not that simple. </p><p></p><p>Under the right conditions, I see CA in every bin without ED glass and even in some with ED glass, but not to the same degree. Some non-ED bins such as my SE show very little CA. Conditions have to be deplorable for the SE to show enough to be distracting whereas the EII shows more. That's partly due to the much wider FOV (more edge, more CA).</p><p></p><p>The 10x42 SLC-HD showed no CA on-axis no matter how high the background contrast whereas I could induce some CA slightly off-axis in the 10x42 EDG. Both use ED glass.</p><p></p><p>So it's not like either you're "sensitive" to it or not, but if you can see it, how much do you see in a particular bin, and is it enough to be distracting to you? </p><p></p><p>The fact that you can't see CA in any bin doesn't mean it's not there, it's there and it can be photographed, but somehow your brain chooses to filter it out. I think having a CA filter brain is less common than those who see CA to some degree or another, depending on lighting conditions, but since you think I'm "full of it," I'd need a poll to convince you since in addition to your brain filtering out CA, it apparently also filters out posts from members who report seeing CA with their bins! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>If you send me the Maven B2, I'll let you know how much CA it has, and then I'll send it to Henry so he can prove me right. :smoke:</p><p></p><p>Brock</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brocknroller, post: 3178329, member: 665"] Steve, If Maven can duplicate the test results of the Conquest HD, that would be the best marketing they could do, better than their "mountain town" mumbo jumbo. I was really impressed with that video. It's comforting to know that if I'm out birding on gamelands and a hunter shoots at pheasants or turkeys and misses, the Conquest will absorb the buckshot. :eat: That link is what I posted earlier, but I had to turn on four cookies in order to make the options work. It's amazing how many options there are, you can even make different colored ocular rings or objective rings on ether side, though why anyone would want asymmetrical coloring is a mystery. I made my B2 all black since I don't like shiny surfaces on my bins for aesthetic reasons and because they glint in the sun. The only thing I like two-toned are women in bikinis and 1950s cars. I call the all black B2, the Stealth. The only part I colorized was the "M" logo, which looked cool in red. You can make any of the options black or gray/silver without charge. For the armor, they offer FIVE styles of camo, which will cost you $50 to $100 extra, depending on the pattern. Alas, no pinko camo for ladies and socialists. ;) The funny thing about your remarks about ME seeing the world through chromatically aberrated glasses is that I was thinking the same thing about YOU when I read your dismissive post about CA, that you see the world through ED glasses. I thought the fact that so many companies offer ED glass now and that all the alphas top models have it, and the experts weighed in on why companies added it to roofs would have persuaded you otherwise. As to all the engineers and industry people you polled, what do you expect them to say? Yes, our binoculars do have chromatic aberration, we need to add ED glass, but we're afraid the extra cost will drive customers away? I think we need to do a BF poll on CA. Do you see it, yes or no. If you see it, does it bother you? However, it's not that simple. Under the right conditions, I see CA in every bin without ED glass and even in some with ED glass, but not to the same degree. Some non-ED bins such as my SE show very little CA. Conditions have to be deplorable for the SE to show enough to be distracting whereas the EII shows more. That's partly due to the much wider FOV (more edge, more CA). The 10x42 SLC-HD showed no CA on-axis no matter how high the background contrast whereas I could induce some CA slightly off-axis in the 10x42 EDG. Both use ED glass. So it's not like either you're "sensitive" to it or not, but if you can see it, how much do you see in a particular bin, and is it enough to be distracting to you? The fact that you can't see CA in any bin doesn't mean it's not there, it's there and it can be photographed, but somehow your brain chooses to filter it out. I think having a CA filter brain is less common than those who see CA to some degree or another, depending on lighting conditions, but since you think I'm "full of it," I'd need a poll to convince you since in addition to your brain filtering out CA, it apparently also filters out posts from members who report seeing CA with their bins! ;) If you send me the Maven B2, I'll let you know how much CA it has, and then I'll send it to Henry so he can prove me right. :smoke: Brock [/QUOTE]
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