River warbler or common grasshopper warbler? (1 Viewer)

[JayFeatherPL]

North-eastern Poland, 12th of May, about 6/7 pm, the bird was singing in bushes next to a swamp (with greylag geese, shovelers, gadwalls and wood sandpipers), there's a big lake near with a lot of waterfowl, I didn't see the warbler.

 

[KenM]

The last track sounds like River Warbler to me JayFeather.👍

 

[PYRTLE]

The last track sounds like River Warbler to me JayFeather.👍

I agree with Ken. Do you use xeno-canto.org?...... I did send you a link some time ago, its very useful.

 

[JayFeatherPL]

I agree with Ken. Do you use xeno-canto.org?...... I did send you a link some time ago, its very useful.

Of course I do, but:
Firstly: On xeno-canto you often have to wait for a long time before someone answers you (a great amount of recordings on xeno-canto have no answers)
Secondly: On xeno there's usually one person, who replies to your sound and it's better to get the opinions of more people
Thirdly: If you don't want to spam you can upload only one recording on xeno-canto and on BirdForum you can upload more recordings in one thread
Fourthly: On BirdForum "Bird identification Q&A" is there for a certain purpose, right?

 

[Southern Viking]

As said above, it is definitely River Warbler. The "sewing machine" rhythm is a real giveaway is as far as locustella warblers in Europe go (whether there's a local bush- or tree-cricket that sounds similar is another matter!)

 

[Butty]

Of course I do . . . "Bird identification Q&A" is there for a certain purpose, right?

It's best to keep calm and to give people the benefit of the doubt... By listening to recordings of the two suggested species on standard sources, it's possible to tell that your recordings are not like grasshopper warbler (a continuous and constant reeling sound) but far more like river warbler (broken up into pulsating units of c. 4 per sec). So I imagine Mr P guessed that you hadn't made this comparison for some reason and helpfully gave you a source to try. Of course it's fine to post a query here - but it's also helpful to state how far you've got with the query yourself - so that people are saved from suggesting things you've already tried. In my opinion.

 

[Brad Hacker]

River Warbler, with Graylag & Yellowhammer?, Mallard?, Spotted Crake? in background.

 

[PYRTLE]

Fourthly: On BirdForum "Bird identification Q&A" is there for a certain purpose, right?

Absolutely, and most members acknowledge any help and answers with some type of thanks. I trust you're satisfied with the identification as River Warbler.

 

[wheatearlp]

Firstly: On xeno-canto you often have to wait for a long time before someone answers you (a great amount of recordings on xeno-canto have no answers)

Well, that's something I've learnt today... you can ask questions on xeno-canto!