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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CliveP" data-source="post: 3324936" data-attributes="member: 85835">Went out again today. Similar weather and similar result. These little bins are quite extraordinary for distance viewing was again my over riding impression, of course they also work well for close in viewing but it's a little harder to centre them with your eye positioning being more critical for that so this is a result I was not expecting really for a mini binocular like this.My Papilio would probably be better for near and medium range but then it is lower mag and has a wider fov.What was interesting was I met another birder with a huge pair of Fujinnon 10x56 and we swopped. I said nothing about the HD to let him give his own impression and he found them very good and this is coming from a guy who just had been using a massive 10x56. The impression I got from the 10x56 was that the view over distance was very similar to the minute HD. It was only when I got the HD back that I noticed the smaller view but my eyes soon adjusted back and it was great viewing again with the HD.My 8x32 would still be my preference in these circumstances or my 8x43 or my 10x30 or possibly my 8x25 Vistron but I am sold on this 8x20. It seems to be a distance specialist so not exactly what I was imagining for use at an indoor event say but definitely superb for a small bin were distance viewing is required. Optics are a strange and amazing  thing and this little bin can actually seem to be better over distance than my larger 8x bins. Eye placement needs care but it's not to bad. I found when holding the bin, my right forefinger naturally kind of rests on my forehead with the eyecups fully extended just touching my eyes and this seems to provided the required steadiness.The mind boggles at what the 10x25 version must be like considering this little 8x20 is already a distance viewing gem?</blockquote>

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