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Rugged, lightweight Binocular recommendations to carry while paragliding. (1 Viewer)

FIREotter

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I've become overwhelmed by all the options out there, hoping for a reccomendation on a set of binoculars suitable for carrying while paragliding. Generally there can be a bit of sitting about waiting for conditions to be just right, keeping an eye out for birds thermalling, other paragliders and also scoping out landing options, similarly there can be a lot of hanging about in a field once landed and scoping out which pilot is coming in next, cheching out the hedge rows/surrounding trees. I think 10x is probably ideal, as everything I'm looking for is pretty far away. First consideration is weight, most of the launches are a serious hike, so sub 300g would be ideal, though I would definitely consider a little more weigh if it meant a drastic boost in optical quality. Second is durability and price, these won't have a very easy life inside of a paragliding bag, launches/landings can be hard, bags are hastily packed unpacked on rocky hillsides, sometimes even in snow, in the likely event of these being damaged/lost, I'd rather it wasn't a huge financial loss at the same time, hoping for <£150ish (UK) .

What I've looked at so far are the Steiner Blue Origin 10x26, though they're a bit pricey and I don't think very waterproof. The RSPB Avocet 10x25. The Vortex 10x28/32, but they are significantly heavier though have an awesome warranty. Pentax Pipillio, thought the highest magnification option is only 8.5x. I'm open to any other options.

Size isn't a particularly important requirement as I've plenty of room, though if they're huge they're less likely to be packed if I'm running low on bag space or taken along on any other activities.

Additionally, I'll be wearing sunglasses a lot of the time as we generally fly under strong sun to take advantage of thermals, so the eye relief is a bit of a consideration, though not a deal breaker for me, though for sharing, with most pilots in their 60's+ most are sporting glasses.
 
Kowa BD DCF 8x25 -- but the eye-relief might be too short at 16mm to use with glasses, which would probably be a problem with many smaller binos. Try before you buy.
 
Something with a really good neck strap or harness. It's a long way down. Given that there will be some unavoidable movement you might want a lower magnification, 6x-8x.
 
I would rule out the Papilio (as much as I like them) for that use. They are not waterproof, are pretty bulky for the lens diameter and generally are not the toughest. Vortex sounds like a safe bet, especially considering the warranty. You might want to check out their Vanquish 10x26, a reverse Porro is usually a safe bet on the entry level price bracket.
Another good option in the same configuration is the Nikon Travelite 10x25 (AKA Prostaff ATB). Also a rugged no-nonsense reverse porro. I have one in 8x25 and I'm really satisfied.
However, I'm not sure about 10x especially considering that you might have done some trekking/walking to get to where you are or in general your heart rate might not be the calmest at that moment. A small 10x with a humble exit pupil and a jittery heart usually make for poor viewing experience.

Somewhat heavier but a safe bet in terms of optical quality and ruggedness is the Nikon Monarch 7, yes I have not written M7 on purpose, because now that it has been replaced by the M7 maybe there are good options, also in the 2nd hand market for a unit at reasonable cost (otherwise it would be out of your budget). But thinking about this, maybe the new P7 8x30/10x30 could fit the bill. The viewing experience will probably be superior to any x25, and besides it has a very wide FOV.
 
@FIREotter,

Very interesting question in view of your intended use. I can see why you selected the Steiner Blue 10x26 as a possible candidate. But I would be inclined to start where @yarrellii suggested with a reverse Porro in either 8 or 10x in 25 or 26 mm. Abilities vary but I find the reverse Porro easier to hold steady in 25 mm than the roof designs after exercise/climbing/hiking and you generally get higher optical quality at a given price as well.

Mike
 
The only thing I'd like to bring up is that you might want to borrow a few other magnifications from friends and check them out while actually paragliding. My imagined choice would be for lower magnification while in motion, and less weight too.

I've only paraglided once, but took my camera up and was thoroughly enjoying the experience all the way up until I started taking pictures. Horrible case of motion sickness that wouldn't go away for a pretty long time after I was back on the ground.
Not only that, there was no communication since they couldn't hear me over the snowmachine and after I was back down they said that with all the waving I was doing, it seemed apparent that I was really having a great time, so they kept making additional loops around the lake for me.
My knee jerk recommendation would be the very small, light, easy to view through and lower magnification 7x21 Curio.
 
6x18 7 day shop £7 waterproof binocular selected as only one third are really good.

My light aircraft friend uses this when flying and it works well.

Probably best to buy three if the first one gets out of collimation.

Regards,
B.
 
And why not a monocular ? If the observation isn't for longtime might be a good option which good optics quality and lightweight like the Opticron Explorer Mono WA ED-R 8x32.
 
Doesn't seem like that was the use case -- judging from the start post :D. OP never stated he wanted to use these while in the air.
Indeed, i haven't understand that will be used flying but maybe I've missed something...in case of, it's probably not a good advice
 
Firstly, thank you all for your thoughtful insight. Secondly, just to clarify, these will never be used while in the air, far too much going on while flying, so will only be used while waiting around on launch/landing. I think 10x is the right balance of magnification as all the objects I'll be looking at are really quite far away, a more powerful setup even may be more suitable if it wasn't for them being hand held. I'm going to have a more in depth look at all the suggestions now, but will be keeping my eye on this thread, so please add to it if anything else comes to mind. Thanks again.
 
Canon 10x30 IS binocular or maybe a waterproof Kite or clone stabilised binocular.

Even a Canon 8x20 IS, I think, will show more than an unstabilised binocular.

Regards,
B.
 
So with your specifications notably 300g and under 150£ I'll said :
  • a monocular could be a good option for good performances but less confort
  • a bino 8x25 because of weight(I don't know if 28 30 or 32 models exist under 300g), porro like travelite are maybe the best quality/price item or other roof models. Or others models in 2nd hand.

If the weight is not a problem, a 10x30 with roof construction is another good option and if the price or a 2nd hand is ok the monarch 7 10x30 is a serious challenger
 

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