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Sabah: Mt Kinabalu (Feb 2024) (1 Viewer)

earlytorise

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Not a formal day-by-day account, but some pointers.

This national park has two parts. The first is the road from the entrance to Timpohon Gate. The second is the vast upland area above Timpohon Gate.

The second part is only necessary if you want Friendly Bush-Warbler and the endemic subspecies of Island Thrush. Furthermore, you can't just wander around the second part - you have to book a fancy-pants mountaineering trip in advance, with a guide following you and camping gear and all. I didn't have the money or the patience for that.

The first part is where most of the avian highlights are. Again, it is a long road from entrance HQ to Timpohon Gate. There are several trails off the side of the road, but every birder I met told me not to spend time on those - the road will suffice.

If you have a car, travelling along the road will be super easy. I didn't have a car. Luckily there are shuttle buses/vans between the bottom and the top of the road. Ask at the entrance for the office where you purchase shuttle tickets - if you want a return ticket it has to be bought at the office at the outset, not on the bus/van itself. The bus ride to the top is less strenuous than the walk to the top. You can flag the downward-bound vans at any point, as long as you have a return ticket in hand.

The main landmark near the start of the road is Liwagu Restaurant, where the meals are more expensive than outside the park proper. The main area for Whitehead's Broadbill and Whitehead's Trogon is the 1km stretch of road further up from the restaurant. The best way to tick these is to wait for someone else to locate them - it's a popular spot, there should be other birders/toggers from Malaysia.

In fact, if it is your first trip there and you wish to relax, then spend at least half your time within 1.5km of the restaurant. You'll see plenty of stuff. I remember when I spotted an Eyebrowed Jungle Flycatcher very near the restaurant - quite the show.

The third Whitehead's, namely the spiderhunter, I didn't manage to see in February - because flowers weren't blooming. At any rate from my chats with others I get the impression that Crocker Range would be better for this species than Mt Kinabalu.

I was too lazy to wake up early every day. More fool me. The earlier the better.

What I enjoyed the most there were a few Dark Hawk-Cuckoos near Timpohon Gate, one of which eventually sang on a visible perch - perfect for footage.

You're theoretically not supposed to walk beyond the restaurant at night, but some frog and snake and owl enthusiasts do anyway. I didn't, and I certainly wouldn't advise doing it alone.

Logistical aspects that have nothing to do with birding:
The hotel complex inside the park is expensive. It is cheaper to stay and eat at one of the hotels outside, within walking distance of the park entrance. I stayed at the Box Hotel, which is simple but clean and good enough for me. You need warm clothes for chilly nights, as well as moth photography equipment for the many many moths that are attracted to the hotel lights.
The bus from Kota Kinabalu (Inanam Bus Terminal) to Sandakan can stop at any hotel near the entrance of Mt Kinabalu. Just inform the driver. But if you want to hop on the bus at Mt Kinabalu you have to buy the ticket in advance, presumably through the internet, and somehow inform the bus company where to pick you up - I don't know how. It's a busy highway, the bus doesn't have time to spot you unexpectedly and slow down. Instead, I asked the hotel to arrange a shared minivan that goes back to Kota Kinabalu.
 
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The second part is only necessary if you want Friendly Bush-Warbler and the endemic subspecies of Island Thrush. Furthermore, you can't just wander around the second part - you have to book a fancy-pants mountaineering trip in advance, with a guide following you and camping gear and all. I didn't have the money or the patience for that.
Which the IOC have just split.
 
Some friends of mine were there recently & asked 3 times if they could go beyond the Timpohon Gate & were told three times they could, so they went up one morning, nobody was at the gatehouse so they went through, got 2km before they got challenged, were told to stay where they were while the fella went off to check, they carried on another km, saw the Friendly Warbler, got escorted back down & the police were waiting for them at the gate
 
There are several trails off the side of the road, but every birder I met told me not to spend time on those - the road will suffice.
I would argue otherwise. Yes, the road can be good but I also got good views of things like Bornean Shortwing, Mountain Wren Babbler and Crimson headed Partridge (along with a nice mix of other species) that I would have otherwise not seen had I not birded these trails. Very few visitors seem to bother with them, meaning they were often undisturbed.
 
Not a formal day-by-day account, but some pointers.

This national park has two parts. The first is the road from the entrance to Timpohon Gate. The second is the vast upland area above Timpohon Gate.
I would, as others, argue the trails are much more pleasant to bird. So following your categories, I'd say that's the 3rd part, and imho it was the best for birding.
The second part is only necessary if you want Friendly Bush-Warbler and the endemic subspecies of Island Thrush. Furthermore, you can't just wander around the second part - you have to book a fancy-pants mountaineering trip in advance, with a guide following you and camping gear and all. I didn't have the money or the patience for that.
For anyone's interest: Friendly Bush-Warbler can be seen in a different place, just outside of the national park.
The main area for Whitehead's Broadbill and Whitehead's Trogon is the 1km stretch of road further up from the restaurant. The best way to tick these is to wait for someone else to locate them
That's one approach, but I would always want to find birds myself :)
You're theoretically not supposed to walk beyond the restaurant at night, but some frog and snake and owl enthusiasts do anyway. I didn't, and I certainly wouldn't advise doing it alone.
Why not? Is there any danger or is it from the point of view what is allowed?
 
I was there years ago, but walking beyond the Timpohon Gate was allowed up to some (well visible) hut further up. Behind the hut, only groups with a guide were allowed. Friendly Bush-Warbler was between the Timpohon Gate and the hut, the Island Thrush was behind the hut. All the other birds were before the gate.

For an European, the tourism on Mount Kinabalu looked very strange. While Europeans are accustomed to independent hikers who are responsible for their own safety, there were crowds of Malayan city folk who had zero stamina, were taking selfies on every road curve, and were shepherded by guides to the mountaintop and back. And the guides completely could not understand that somebody may not need or want to take part in this circus 'take a selfie with a sunrise on Mount Kinabalu'.
 
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Why not? Is there any danger or is it from the point of view what is allowed?

Having gone through the thread concerning "near misses" (on the Birds and Birding section), I see that relative to others I have a very very cautious personality😅
When I waved the frog photographer goodbye at dusk, I assume he was about to use the trails - it was drizzling, I was worried if anyone would slip and fall. He was going with someone, which at least is better than solo.
 
Some friends of mine were there recently & asked 3 times if they could go beyond the Timpohon Gate & were told three times they could, so they went up one morning, nobody was at the gatehouse so they went through, got 2km before they got challenged, were told to stay where they were while the fella went off to check, they carried on another km, saw the Friendly Warbler, got escorted back down & the police were waiting for them at the gate
The Timpohan gate, is that the gate at the base of the climb up Mt Kinabalu? If it is, we had the Fruithunter here a couple of times when we were there.

We made our way up to the accommodation at what was then called Laban Rata, then walked up to the peak at c0300hrs for sunrise, well worth it.
 
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The Timpohan gate, is that the gate at the base of the climb up Mt Kinabalu? If it is, we had the Fruithunter here a couple of times when we were there.

We made our way up to the accommodation at what was then called Laban Rata, then walked up to the peak at c0300hrs for sunrise, well worth it.
Yep, that's all off limits now unless you're accompanied by a guide - I was looking at going a few years ago & got in touch with one of the companies that takes people to the summit & asked if I could just accompany them up to Laban Rata then get picked up on their way back down but I never heard back from them

Unfortunately, Malaysia seems to be getting more restrictive for independent birders - not allowed out at night at Mount Kinabalu, mandatory guides for most of Taman Negara, & the best bits of the Genting & Cameron Highlands & even the Pine Tree Trail at Fraser's Hill
 
Yep, that's all off limits now unless you're accompanied by a guide - I was looking at going a few years ago & got in touch with one of the companies that takes people to the summit & asked if I could just accompany them up to Laban Rata then get picked up on their way back down but I never heard back from them

Unfortunately, Malaysia seems to be getting more restrictive for independent birders - not allowed out at night at Mount Kinabalu, mandatory guides for most of Taman Negara, & the best bits of the Genting & Cameron Highlands & even the Pine Tree Trail at Fraser's Hill
Wow, these are public trails in some cases afaik?

How can they stop you birding the main road at Kinabalu at night, what are your options for nightbirding , expensive guides?
 
Until recently Malaysia was a good place for semi-independent birding. Now I think about canceling my trip there. Good that other countries in South Asia allow more inexpensive and free contact with nature.
 
Regarding not being permitted to go out at night at Mount Kinabalu, I was there in March and the story I heard from our local guide is that night outings are now restricted as there was an incident of someone coming in the night and stealing a very rare wild flower that was being studied.

I believe you can arrange a night outing at the park entrance and they'll give you a badge thingy to keep with you/around your neck.

I would have to agree with others that spending at least some of the time on the trails is definitely recommended as it is much easier to see a few of the more skulky species that way. The overall birding is certainly better along the road from my experience though, in particular in terms of visibility.
 

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