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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Frenchy" data-source="post: 1404325" data-attributes="member: 32354">To be fair, i think that the ID criteria of samamisicus put forward in the BB paper still stand, regardless of the exact distribution of the race in Turkey and any integration. The fact that nominate Redstarts exist with pale fringes to the remiges was not fully appreciated by everyone, and hopefully this paper clarifies that. Brian states in the paper that some 1st yr male samamisicus are likely to be overlooked, so there's always room for an increase in knowledge.</blockquote>