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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rustyw" data-source="post: 1385479" data-attributes="member: 71809">Hi everyone!We have Crows in San Diego… many, many Crows.  In the small wild area behind our house I estimate we have 12 to 18 at any given moment (10 months ago we had over 60 but that’s another story).  They have crowded out almost all of the other birds but over the last 10 months many have returned (that other story again) including two Hawks (at least I think they’re Hawks).  If I'm right, one is a Red Tail Hawk.  The huge white one I don't know but will post images in another post.I think a couple of very large ‘Crows’ are actually Ravens.  However a lady from animal control who came out to get a coyote out of our back yard assured me that there were no Ravens this far into the city.  Below is a link to some film I took from our back yard – I wasn’t using a tripod that day so its not the best but there are some moments of clarity.  If I’ve identified the larger bird correctly it is a Red Tail Hawk.  The other bird… well that’s were my interest lies.I know some things about Ravens and Crows from my Internet research: *Ravens have a wedged tail as opposed to a Crow’s rounded tail;*Ravens are larger then Crows; *You can see through a Raven’s wings but not a Crows; *Crows only soar for only a few seconds - Ravens, like Hawks, can soar for a long time;* **Ravens do mid-flight summersaults, Crows don’t; Crows flock together, Ravens are loners; A Raven has a larger beak; A Raven has a fuzzy area on its throat; Both Ravens and Crows are very intelligent but Ravens were offered up by scientists a year ago as the second most intelligent species on the planet tied with the Great Ape and Dolphins (I love telling people that). If I am wrong about any of this please correct me -- I’ll dig up the Internet source if I can.* Keep these points in mind as you watch the video.** I'm not entirely sure what a 'mid-flight summersault' is.So what is pestering the Red Tail Hawk – a Crow or a Raven?  Cast your vote.<a href="http://www.virtualmediastudios.com/RavenOrCrow.wmv" target="_blank">http://www.virtualmediastudios.com/RavenOrCrow.wmv</a>Thanks,Rusty</blockquote>

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