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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rustyw" data-source="post: 1385586" data-attributes="member: 71809">Graham,I'm new to this forum and I now see that this was probably the wrong place for this post.Thanks for the conformation.  I was almost sure they were.  I assume I got the Hawk right... when you can see the top of the tail it is red so... I'm guessing Red Tail Hawk.  I think I have better pictures and/or video of the Hawk.I forgot to mention that there are two of the larger Crows -- or Ravens (all Ravens are Crows as I understand it) and the pair of them are almost always together.  Do Ravens mix it up a lot with Crows? It is hard to tell but, although they never seem to join in with the group of Crows (about a dozen these days... is it called an 'unkindness' of Crows?) when they take to the air, sometimes they appear like they are almost leading the Crows.  Now that I'm surer that these large black birds are Ravens I can say that they imitate the Kaaa Kaaa of the Crows but it seems deeper, throatier and I think a lot of the bird sounds we hear come from the Ravens.Cheers,Rusty</blockquote>