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Message: <blockquote data-quote="macrourus" data-source="post: 1595267" data-attributes="member: 43747">Pfiuuuuu :t:  I'm happy I'm not going mad definitively!   I was the only one with Ottavio Janni beliving in Italy that this bird its a Kentish Plover !   But nobody agreed and all thought about a Lesser SP or a GSand Plover .... so I was searching a foreigners expertise opinion!  That's why in my first message I wrote "plover" without specifing any kind... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />  But I reported the fact about the observer and the raction in Italy,m to sound as more objective as possible, not to show I wanted to influence nobody!    Thansk Killian!   I've found also several mis-id Kentish on the web for LSP...   The bill its the best key-character on this bird as in the others. Regarding the pailish collar, I think this may be shown also by GSP and LSP  sometimes, mostly in abraded birds: indeed, when they move the head down, or in front, they show the base of each feather that is pailish...so the tip its abraded or darkish but the base its pale and there is a ghosting appearance of a palish collar (as opposite for example to loreal stripe in for ex. Richard's and Tawny when the darkish base of the feathers its shown depending on head angle...) THANKS KILLIAN !!</blockquote>