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Message: <blockquote data-quote="citrinella" data-source="post: 1297258" data-attributes="member: 15241">This brings me back to the suggestion I have been making for supporting named species fledged on the land under management. I know this argument can sound complicated ! Caper summed up the attitude of the crofters neatly, but paying compensation for damage is not paying for the outcome we want. It leaves room for the compensation to be received (perhaps for falsified figures - dead lambs aren't hard to find, and cause of death may not be obvious); while at the same time raptors being persecuted - kept down to a minimum so that the compensation is paid.What we need is a scheme that pays for what we want - actual diversity and abundance. In many cases monitoring of this is very good, and where that is the case we should at least pilot paying for fledged young. Yes, I know that they can be killed after fledging, but that reduces the number that would be available to produce fledged young and hence extra income next year. In the case of lambs, by fledging time the lambs are much bigger and not likely prey anyway. There will also come a point when extra fledged young will move away to try to establish breeding territories elsewhere anyway.There have been loads of instances of interference by government in market forces. Experience should tell us that the ones that work best are those that reward for the ultimate objective. Those that reward for some proxy often achieve the proxy without actually achieving the real objective.Sorry John, couldn't let this pass <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I am a farmer, and I am not alone in being sickened by the situation regarding hen harriers in particular and many other raptors (including attitudes to sprawks by many peanut feeding ordinary people). Mind you, I am not a livestock farmer, but I do support thousands of tweets !Mike.</blockquote>

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