Does anybody have any news on what the Ultimate Pelagic trip recorded?
Hi Hugh,
Wasn't on the trip myself, but I've put what I heard onto this thread;
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=121454
Cheers, B
Does anybody have any news on what the Ultimate Pelagic trip recorded?
Hearing how the UP gets on will be interesting, though understanding what was really seen versus the numbers published is certainly a challange... I did the first UP, when we saw a "Little" really well from the bow on the second morning in the southern bay, and another was reliably seen from the stern, but I think the published total was 6!! I agree, they should be out there, but not in the numbers often claimed.... (the Wilson's P from the '06 UP was also very, very iffy, and yes I saw the bird in question, which was more than can be said for the fabricated Bulwer's).
Cheers, BT
I was on the first UP, too. I think it's a little unfair to say the Bulwer's was 'fabricated', especially if the implication is that UP staff made it up to boost business.
The Bulwer's was reported by a group of foreign birders (Dutch I think) who were constantly on deck and scanning (more than can be said for most birders who just sat and waited to be told what to look at).
As I remember the sighting was very early on and, although they told a member of the UP staff as soon as they found one, unfortunately it was too late for anyone else to see the bird. The fault was that there wasn't an effective way of disseminating information (for which you can't blame the observers).
Hi Terry,
No, that wasn't the implication at all. The implication was they strung it. One might, however take that implication for the Wilson's Petrel report, if one wishes (I saw the bird claimed, and don't believe it could be put down as anything other than a "possible".).
Whilst many birders did enjoy the social side of the first UP, it's "a little unfair" to make the statement that they were the only group who worked hard on the boat. That's just not true; there were a number of crews working hard, usually at the front of the boat, throughout.
One of my key problem with the sighting was the my crew were stood NEXT TO THEM at the time, and they never said a word to any other birders around them. They supressed it, and no-one else saw it (they are not the hardest bird to pick up at sea), despite a many people seeing a distant Sooty Shear at the same time.
As for information dissemination around the boat, it was a joke, and by account has got no better in the last two years.
Of course, good communication also relies on observers calling stuff when seen.
If you have a few minutes spare please see the thread at
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=1276106#post1276106
Cheers
HH