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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bugmat" data-source="post: 3608171" data-attributes="member: 137018">Hi All - a pair of seed finches I can't place. Unfortunately the shtos aren't the best. They were in and around tricolored munias (we have a thriving population of introduced birds in several areas) but I don't think they are TCM immatures for several reasons1. TCM immature birds are usually patchy-looking rather than uniformly brown,and usually have some beginnings of the black head2. All TCM have silver beaks as far as I know - the beaks of these finches are dark-grey/almost blackI was considering female large-billed or chestnut-bellied finches. These are extirpated locally but still exist in the caged bird population (there is a vibrant industry here which is why more than 50% of our seedeaters are extirpated) and escape occasionally... the pet trade possibly brings other species over too as chestnut munias have been seen in the wild here before.</blockquote>