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<blockquote data-quote="dwever" data-source="post: 3382479" data-attributes="member: 118803"><p><strong>On ANY High-End Product Forum</strong></p><p></p><p>1. A high end product is reviewed with an/some issue(s); or a member reports a product problem.</p><p>2. The issue(s) resonates on some level(s) with the experience of one or more other owners.</p><p>3. At or before the issue(s) appear to be trending on some level, a comment is inevitably made how unacceptable such QC is that it ever got out the door. Other members say "here here" and drink to that!</p><p>4. One or more members, an owner most of the time, comes vociferously to the product's defense. They have not seen the issue in their own sample and most often <em>any</em> other sample for that matter. Their defense may include some general derision to previous posters.</p><p></p><p>Hey, everyone's experience is different and everone's telling the truth. It's a vast retail market out there with untold factors to account for varying individual experience to include QC. How much of this would go away if we couldn't order on-line and we were just buying stuff across the glass cabinet we personally inspected? I just ordered some 7x42's today from Joel at CamerLand and I hope very very much to keep them!</p><p></p><p>I know at one time slop in the focusing wheel was reportedly an issue for some Leica Alphas and I was bit by that once jumping on some demo stock. I know my Zeiss Marine's are tanks and quite possibly bomb proof <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. Glad some are getting the SF's with zero issues. I know at the moment, taking everything in balance, for me I would be very cautious and would instead move towards the HT's. Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dwever, post: 3382479, member: 118803"] [b]On ANY High-End Product Forum[/b] 1. A high end product is reviewed with an/some issue(s); or a member reports a product problem. 2. The issue(s) resonates on some level(s) with the experience of one or more other owners. 3. At or before the issue(s) appear to be trending on some level, a comment is inevitably made how unacceptable such QC is that it ever got out the door. Other members say "here here" and drink to that! 4. One or more members, an owner most of the time, comes vociferously to the product's defense. They have not seen the issue in their own sample and most often [I]any[/I] other sample for that matter. Their defense may include some general derision to previous posters. Hey, everyone's experience is different and everone's telling the truth. It's a vast retail market out there with untold factors to account for varying individual experience to include QC. How much of this would go away if we couldn't order on-line and we were just buying stuff across the glass cabinet we personally inspected? I just ordered some 7x42's today from Joel at CamerLand and I hope very very much to keep them! I know at one time slop in the focusing wheel was reportedly an issue for some Leica Alphas and I was bit by that once jumping on some demo stock. I know my Zeiss Marine's are tanks and quite possibly bomb proof :-). Glad some are getting the SF's with zero issues. I know at the moment, taking everything in balance, for me I would be very cautious and would instead move towards the HT's. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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