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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rockfowl" data-source="post: 1285260" data-attributes="member: 64295">Actually Howard I think you're right, there is a race of Fiscal subcoronatus which I'm unfamiliar with but shows chestnut on the flanks and has a distinctive white super. I'm thrown by the lack of white base to the primaries but this may not show in young birds and what we can see is odd anyway? The rump is also white in this subspecies and this bird certainly shows a whitish rump compared with Common Fiscal's more normal air force grey. The pale area coming down the rear of the ear coverts is a bit misleading as are the gingery tones but I'm sure somebody more familiar with these birds will clarify thisM</blockquote>