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Sicily 09/2021, Harrier (1 Viewer)

Lanugoh

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In September 2021 I took these pictures of a probably migratory harrier. My best suggestions are that they show eithar a Palid Harrier or a Montagu's Harrier, who can help?
 

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tconzemi

Tom
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Europe
Pro juvenile Monty: dark fingers, no bomerang on base of outer primaries, dark tipped inner primaries, lot of white around eye, cheek patch rather small, collar not joining below
 
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Deb Burhinus

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Europe
Difficult tbh on these images. Structurally, it looks a bit better for juvenile Montagu’s to me. P10 looks about the same length as P6 and in some of the images, the hand looks distinctly long. There is also a lot of white around the eye favoring Monty’s.

X Posted with Tom!!
 

Lanugoh

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What made me hesitate idetifying it as Motagu's is that there is no continuous black line at the rear part of the wing. But migrating Montagu's has also a greater probability in the region I guess.
 

lou salomon

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What made me hesitate idetifying it as Motagu's is that there is no continuous black line at the rear part of the wing. But migrating Montagu's has also a greater probability in the region I guess.
actually there is a dark trailing edge, best visible in pic 3; and lack of a clear trailing edge as a pro pallid feature applies only to inner primaries.
 

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