Sightron "Blue Sky" II 8x32 (1 Viewer)

[ceasar]

Frank,
I notice that you say in your comments in the web page above that the "The field of view is advertised as 7.5 degrees (394 feet) and comparing it to the 8x32 SE this seems to be the case." But Sightron notes in the technical details for the binocular that it has a FOV of 420' @1000 yards. Actually it reads Fov [[email protected]]: 420. But that has to be a typo!

But more seriously, has anyone tried to analyze in depth why this particular binocular model should be so much better than other 8x32 roof prisms in it's price class?

After 900 comments, a great number of which are about it's excellence, it seems to me that it is overdue for an analysis of why it is so good!

Is there anybody here willing to take one apart and analyze it?

Bob

 

[brocknroller]

seND ONe 2 HeNRY.

B.

 

[FrankD]

Bob,

That particularl typo was caught before...actually right at the beginning of this thread...and then again several dozen pages later. I emailed Sightron about it and so did at least one other forum member. Not sure why they haven't changed it.....going on 2+ years later. I guess the easy explanation is that the "average consumer" isn't going to care whether it is 7.5 or 8 degrees as long as it provides a good view overall. The "rest of us" are subscribed to this forum and have read the Sightron thread numerous times so we are aware of it.

Not saying any of that is "right" but it is probably the mentality.

To answer your other question, I honestly believe it is the physical length of the binocular considering it is an 8x32. Since it is longer there is a "better opportunity" for aberration and distortions to be corrected in the image. That is just my opinion though and not based on anything I specifically read about it.

Brock,

I tried that, back in the beginning, and he prefers not to receive any personal sport optics because of the liability issues.

On a related note now Brock, you can now say the "900+ post" Sightron thread.

 

[brocknroller]

Bob,

That particularl typo was caught before...actually right at the beginning of this thread...and then again several dozen pages later. I emailed Sightron about it and so did at least one other forum member. Not sure why they haven't changed it.....going on 2+ years later. I guess the easy explanation is that the "average consumer" isn't going to care whether it is 7.5 or 8 degrees as long as it provides a good view overall. The "rest of us" are subscribed to this forum and have read the Sightron thread numerous times so we are aware of it.

Not saying any of that is "right" but it is probably the mentality.

To answer your other question, I honestly believe it is the physical length of the binocular considering it is an 8x32. Since it is longer there is a "better opportunity" for aberration and distortions to be corrected in the image. That is just my opinion though and not based on anything I specifically read about it.

Brock,

I tried that, back in the beginning, and he prefers not to receive any personal sport optics because of the liability issues.

On a related note now Brock, you can now say the "900+ post" Sightron thread.

Send him an ACCIDENT WAIVER AND RELEASE OF LIABILITY FORM along with the bin so he won't have to pay $158 in case he breaks it. Of course, then he might be tempted to add a "javelin toss test" and an "SUV tire test."

Btw, where is Henry? Usually when I mention his name on a thread, he pops up like a genie waiting for someone to rub his bottle. We haven't heard from him in a long while. I suspect he bought a Swaro 8x56 SLC-HD and has been busy comparing it to his 8x56 FL and is now preparing his technical report. Let's keep our fingers crossed he posts the report soon.

Btw, I heard an old song the other day that reminded me of your relationship to the 8x32 BS II. I just changed one word to make it fit better.

I've got a never ending thread for you, and from now on, that's all I want to do.
From the first time we met, I knew...I'd have a never ending thread for you.

Delaney And Bonnie-

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[FrankD]

You missed your calling Brock. ;-)

Haven't seen Henry in awhile either. What we need is a purely technical thread to lure him out of the shadows and, of course, to put you to sleep.

 

[brocknroller]

You missed your calling Brock. ;-)

Haven't seen Henry in awhile either. What we need is a purely technical thread to lure him out of the shadows and, of course, to put you to sleep.

I could use the zzzzzs. I was so tired last night I fell asleep on the couch like Dagwood. My cat woke me up around 2 a.m. :cat:

I coulda shoulda woulda had an illustrious and rewarding career writing parodies for Hallmark. Just penned this one for the ZR contest:

Oh Lord, won't you win me a Zen Ray Prime ED?
My friends all have Swarovskis, but I can’t pay the high fee.
Worked hard all my lifetime, but I don’t have a penny,
So Lord, won't you win me a Zen Ray Prime ED?

Too bad about the 8x25 being a stinker. Looks like the 8x32 BS II is Sightron's "gem." Let the post count continue!

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[perterra]

Lets shoot for a thousand

 

[stereotruckdriver]

I could use the zzzzzs. I was so tired last night I fell asleep on the couch like Dagwood. My cat woke me up around 2 a.m. :cat:

I coulda shoulda woulda had an illustrious and rewarding career writing parodies for Hallmark. Just penned this one for the ZR contest:

Oh Lord, won't you win me a Zen Ray Prime ED?
My friends all have Swarovskis, but I can’t pay the high fee.
Worked hard all my lifetime, but I don’t have a penny,
So Lord, won't you win me a Zen Ray Prime ED?

Too bad about the 8x25 being a stinker. Looks like the 8x32 BS II is Sightron's "gem." Let the post count continue!

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Brock, your wit never ceases to amaze me.

Bryce...

 

[NDhunter]

Brock, your wit never ceases to amaze me.

Bryce...

Bryce:

I agree with your thoughts. Brock, have you been entering the
contest to win a new binocular? A surprise that the last winner was
Mark from PA. I suppose Charles will spread it around.

Jerry

 

[brocknroller]

Brock, your wit never ceases to amaze me.

Bryce...

Here's hoping that my wit never turns dim. B

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[FrankD]

Cute Borkc...as always.

I just wanted to be a little more specific in my concerns with the Sightron SI 8x25. I like the physical "package" of the binocular. Size is good and the focusing knob was favorable for my preferences. Even the eyecups felt "solid". The downside was the optics. The image was dim compared to the 8x32 SII and even the 8x28 Bushnell Excursion. Furthermore the sweet spot wasn't perfectly "centered" in one barrel plus the size of the sweet spot was quite small in both barrels. One barrel didn't even reach an acceptable level of sharpness. This particular configuration of this model was not manufacturered in the Phillipines.

 

[brocknroller]

Cute Borkc...as always.

I just wanted to be a little more specific in my concerns with the Sightron SI 8x25. I like the physical "package" of the binocular. Size is good and the focusing knob was favorable for my preferences. Even the eyecups felt "solid". The downside was the optics. The image was dim compared to the 8x32 SII and even the 8x28 Bushnell Excursion. Furthermore the sweet spot wasn't perfectly "centered" in one barrel plus the size of the sweet spot was quite small in both barrels. One barrel didn't even reach an acceptable level of sharpness. This particular configuration of this model was not manufacturered in the Phillipines.

Sounds like you might have gotten a bad sample. Perhaps you should order another, just in case.

You always liked to try more than one sample, what was it, FIVE Leupold Cascades, FOUR 8x32 SEs, THREE BS IIs, TWO Zeiss 7x42 FLs, and a partridge in a pair tree?

Chinbins are always a crap shoot. The Filipinos, however, seem to be on the ball. They could become the New Japanese, or at least they could if not for the extremist factions in the country, which are bound to disrupt business.

I've been waiting for South Korea to produce sports optics. They are industrious and smart, but labor is still much cheaper than Germany.

Brock

 

[SteveTS]

I've been waiting for South Korea to produce sports optics. Brock

They do. Bushnell moved production of their rifle scopes from the Philippines to Korea a while ago, although that hasn't stopped the Chinese producing low grade knock offs (http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=270667).

With apologies to the OP for being OT but you're another post up towards a grand

 

[ceasar]

Would I bruise any feelings or hurt any egos here if I just made 87 sequential posts saying HOO RAY FOR THE BLUE SKYS! in order to get the post count up to 1000 quickly?



HOO RAY FOR THE BLUE SKIES HEADING MY WAY! NUTHIN' BUT BLUE SKIES EVERY DAY!

BLUE DAYS, ALL OF THEM GONE. NUTHIN' BUT BLUE SKIES FROM NOW ON!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUz6f7xiVmM

Bob

 

[coclimber]

my small part towards 1,000 posts

Hoo Ray For The Blue Skies Heading My Way! Nuthin' But Blue Skies Every Day!

Blue Days, All Of Them Gone. Nuthin' But Blue Skies From Now On!

 

[perterra]

Hoo Ray For The Blue Skies Heading My Way! Nuthin' But Blue Skies Every Day!

Blue Days, All Of Them Gone. Nuthin' But Blue Skies From Now On!

 

[brocknroller]

They do. Bushnell moved production of their rifle scopes from the Philippines to Korea a while ago, although that hasn't stopped the Chinese producing low grade knock offs (http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=270667).

With apologies to the OP for being OT but you're another post up towards a grand

Good to hear, although what I meant was a Korean optics company making a new brand of sports optics in Korea.

I watch "Top Gear", a show you are probably familiar with because it's on BBC (here, BBC America). They travel around the world testing cars, and on one show they went to China, based on the premise of people who kept telling them - "In 10 years, we're all going to be driving Chinese cars."

So they tested some Chinese cars, and lo and behold, every one they tested was a reverse-engineered Japanese or German car/SUV. They drove a copy of a Honda Civic and a BWM SUV. They had different names, of course, but they were unmistakeably copies of those vehicles. In the background was a coffee shop that looked identical to a Starbucks, same sign and colors, but different name. The also had a karate kid Stig, which was hilarious (Stig is their test driver in the U.K., who no-one has ever seen, he only appears in his racing gear and helmet).

The one genuine Chinese car they drove was a basically a motorized rickshaw from the late 1990s. Now China just makes copies of other brand's cars, and they get away with it! They already have more cars on the road in China than all of Europe! Those cars should be Hondas, Toyotas, GM and Euro luxury vehicles, but instead, most are rip-offs.

The Chinese have absolutely no regard whatsoever for copyright/patent laws. No wonder there are so many Chinbin "clones".

They steal every Western product they can get their hands on. What can the U.S. do? It owes China more money than any other county except Canada. So is the U.S. going to pile on sanctions like it's doing with Russia or ban Chinese goods from U.S. ports? Where would be buy stuff? They're aren't enough U.S. manufacturers left to fill the gap.

A grassroots revolt would be pointless unless tomorrow every American stopped shopping at Walmart, Lowe's, Target, Kohl's, Home Depot, Radio Shack, Best Buy, ,_______ (fill in the blank), and that ain't going to happen. I need to buy my insect suet at Walmart. $1.50 less per cake than at Wiscoy, and those mama birds are really going through the suet in between rests from hunting insects to feed their chicks. I do buy my sunflower seeds from Wiscoy even though it costs me $4 more per 50 lbs., because they pick up and carry the bags to my car.

At Walmart, I have to find an "associate" to lift the bags into my cart (bad back), which requires wandering around the store since "associates" are few and far between, and then asking the cashier to page another "associate" to load the bags into the car. By the time I do all that, I could be already home and putting out the seeds if I bought the seeds at Wiscoy.

New dictum: Our cloth is cut from polyester, sold at Walmart, and manufactured in Bangladesh.

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[looksharp65]

Taking the risk of making myself a pariah on Birdforum ... Since we're talking cars and "American" "cars", you should know that little Sweden once had two independent, native and mutually competing car brands - Volvo and SAAB.
Both were known for their very high safety standards and were considered high quality, just below Mercedes and BMW and equal to Audi.

Ford PAG bought Volvo and GM bought SAAB when they feared facing financial trouble. Volvo was a cash cow for the bleeding Ford PAG and there was considerable discontentment with the way Ford neglected reinvesting in Volvo. Later, probably due to a liquidity crisis, Ford PAG sold Volvo to Chinese car company Geely.
There are now two plants in China where Volvo cars are manufactured and those are no knock-offs.

GM acquired half of the company in the late nineties and the other half in 2000. This was not a great business operation as the company made great losses for every SAAB sold. SAAB people claim that GM's internal billing was partially cause to the losses. Opel people say the same but reversed.
GM put Saab into financial reconstruction (the action taken to avoid bankruptcy) in 2009 and the following years were characterised by great turmoil. GM's complete lack of compassion and will to help their former partners to move on is nothing but disgraceful. Chinese companies Youngman and Pang Da were willing to buy SAAB but GM refused to let go of the licences for three current SAAB models.
The result was bankruptcy and unemployment for thousands of SAAB workers.

It may be difficult to fathom the symbolic value of SAAB as a native car and fighter jet manufacturer (the aircrafts are still in production since that's another, independent branch). It was a national treasure rather than a business. There was a museum with all the iconic models from the start in the later forties and the bankruptcy meant that everything must be disposed of. So there aren't even tangible memories for those who wish to dream of SAAB's heydays.

By this I just want to say that you are not the sole country to suffer.

//L

N.B. It is again possible to buy new SAAB 9-3's from NEVS but the production rate is extremely modest AFAIK and the previous turmoil has damaged the brand value severely. Chinese money play a major role in this venture.

 

[perterra]

Taking the risk of making myself a pariah on Birdforum ... Since we're talking cars and "American" "cars", you should know that little Sweden once had two independent, native and mutually competing car brands - Volvo and SAAB.
Both were known for their very high safety standards and were considered high quality, just below Mercedes and BMW and equal to Audi.

Ford PAG bought Volvo and GM bought SAAB when they feared facing financial trouble. Volvo was a cash cow for the bleeding Ford PAG and there was considerable discontentment with the way Ford neglected reinvesting in Volvo. Later, probably due to a liquidity crisis, Ford PAG sold Volvo to Chinese car company Geely.
There are now two plants in China where Volvo cars are manufactured and those are no knock-offs.

GM acquired half of the company in the late nineties and the other half in 2000. This was not a great business operation as the company made great losses for every SAAB sold. SAAB people claim that GM's internal billing was partially cause to the losses. Opel people say the same but reversed.
GM put Saab into financial reconstruction (the action taken to avoid bankruptcy) in 2009 and the following years were characterised by great turmoil. GM's complete lack of compassion and will to help their former partners to move on is nothing but disgraceful. Chinese companies Youngman and Pang Da were willing to buy SAAB but GM refused to let go of the licences for three current SAAB models.
The result was bankruptcy and unemployment for thousands of SAAB workers.

It may be difficult to fathom the symbolic value of SAAB as a native car and fighter jet manufacturer (the aircrafts are still in production since that's another, independent branch). It was a national treasure rather than a business. There was a museum with all the iconic models from the start in the later forties and the bankruptcy meant that everything must be disposed of. So there aren't even tangible memories for those who wish to dream of SAAB's heydays.

By this I just want to say that you are not the sole country to suffer.

//L

N.B. It is again possible to buy new SAAB 9-3's from NEVS but the production rate is extremely modest AFAIK and the previous turmoil has damaged the brand value severely.

Unfortunately the American way is to milk the cash cow for all it's worth, once it runs dry shoot in the head and sell it to a dog food company and laugh all the way to the bank. As long as we get our quarterly bonus who gives a flip what happens to the rest of the world. Every man for their self.

Only bright spot is in another decade or two we will be clamoring over the latest Indian or Pakistan optics and China will be in the same boat we are.

Long live Sam Walton, whats good for Walmart is good for us.

 

[looksharp65]

Luckily I was wrong about the museum. The city of Trollhättan and SAAB AB own the museum so the cars are not scattered for the wind. I think I have to go there one day or another.

//L