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Message: <blockquote data-quote="citrinella" data-source="post: 1174134" data-attributes="member: 15241">To me, when I see them head on, meadow pipit always appear to have a dense patch of spots just below the throat, high on the breast.If you are lucky enough to get good views of them perching on wires, look at the hind claws. They are massively longer on meadow pipit (all pipit). This isn't as difficult to see as it sounds. On a typical 11kv line* skylark claws won't come round the bottom of the wires, meadow pipit will and, against the sky, they show OK.11kv is typical in the UK for local supplies - poles going to farms and villages as opposed to massive pylons serving national transmission purposes, most open country electric wires here in the UK are roughly the same size, and there is no good reason why many other countries should not be the same since they are designed to meet the same purpose. I have seen similar supplies across southern central Africa and in China.Mike.</blockquote>