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Adeel
Hello, SLC 8x42 or EL 8.5x42? If the difference is only 300 USD between both after revamped prices? Just to mention i have SLC and Monarch HG and love them. Is EL Imagewise really better than SLC?
Thanks everyone for your views. Seem not much difference between EL and SLC Myself have compared Monarch HG and SLC for months (both amazing) and i too feel that field flattening removes or reduces the 3D effect. With 3D effect one actually feels that he is actually in the Image, However it may be that field flattening is good for viewing Stars.
I have had them both, and I always preferred the EL 8.5x42. It is just better optically in a lot of different ways. Also, with the SLC 8x42 you are at risk of getting a funky focuser. The SLC 8x42 are notorious for funky focusers.Hi there,
new user here with the same old problem... But during Corona & lockdown times it is impossible for me to try the binoculars for myself within the next 4-8 weeks. I feel like I have read all internet reviews and watched all YouTube videos on those two binos. Nevertheless I find it super hard to decide which one to pick since it is a "buy once, cry once" buying decision and I can't try them out myself.
I am not an experienced birder, I rather like to observe nature in general, go hiking and will obtain my hunting license later this year. This should be my allround, first high quality binoculars and I see two options:
A) Order the EL 8.5x42 SV first, send it back if I notice the rolling ball effect and find it bothering.
B) Order the SLC 8x42 first and hope that I won't feel like I'm missing the better edge-to-edge sharpness or the nicer haptic quality of the EL.
EL 8,5x42 SV are currently 1.734 €, the SLC 8x42 are 1.275 €. What do you guys think is the best strategy given the current situation?
Lucas
I disagree. I think the SLC is on par with the EL optically. The only real difference being the non flat field on the SLC, which is not that much of an issue for many. Construction wise, the SLC is built like a tank. It may not be the prettiest binocular out there but it's certainly one of the bestI would purchase the El 8.5x42, it is clearly a better binocular in many ways, in both construction and optics.
The 42mm SLC is more of a mid-range model, and that is why it is being discontinued in favor of a new CL line.
Swarovski is trying to pare down its offerings to 3 levels, as in the stratosphere priced NL, the main line EL, as in who really needs the NL,
and then the midrange, newly updated CL model line.
Jerry
Hi there,
new user here with the same old problem... But during Corona & lockdown times it is impossible for me to try the binoculars for myself within the next 4-8 weeks. I feel like I have read all internet reviews and watched all YouTube videos on those two binos. Nevertheless I find it super hard to decide which one to pick since it is a "buy once, cry once" buying decision and I can't try them out myself.
[...] I am not an experienced birder, I rather like to observe nature in general, go hiking and will obtain
EL 8,5x42 SV are currently 1.734 €, the SLC 8x42 are 1.275 €. What do you guys think is the best strategy given the current situation?
Lucas
You described exactly my situation. I’ve narrowed my options down to Swarovski in 8x42, but haven’t decided between SLC, EL and NL yet.Hi there,
new user here with the same old problem... But during Corona & lockdown times it is impossible for me to try the binoculars for myself within the next 4-8 weeks. I feel like I have read all internet reviews and watched all YouTube videos on those two binos. Nevertheless I find it super hard to decide which one to pick since it is a "buy once, cry once" buying decision and I can't try them out myself.
I am not an experienced birder, I rather like to observe nature in general, go hiking and will obtain my hunting license later this year. This should be my allround, first high quality binoculars and I see two options:
A) Order the EL 8.5x42 SV first, send it back if I notice the rolling ball effect and find it bothering.
B) Order the SLC 8x42 first and hope that I won't feel like I'm missing the better edge-to-edge sharpness or the nicer haptic quality of the EL.
EL 8,5x42 SV are currently 1.734 €, the SLC 8x42 are 1.275 €. What do you guys think is the best strategy given the current situation?
Lucas
Welcome to BF, Arvaja. NL (or older models of EL/SLC) offer closer focus. NL/ELSV have flat field, most important for astronomy; the field of SLC or older EL is still lovely and fully usable. EL is 8.5x, and open bridge. NL has wider field of view. SLC has slower focusing... and is rapidly disappearing. All are excellent, so what matters to you, and at what cost?You described exactly my situation. I’ve narrowed my options down to Swarovski in 8x42, but haven’t decided between SLC, EL and NL yet.
Thanks! The problem with binos is specs vs. reality. I can check e.g. eye relief on paper, but it’s very difficult to make real-life tests. I tried NL and EL side by side at the retailer and it certainly gave an idea, but only a very shallow idea. SLC I haven’t seen, so don’t know what I’ve missed. I know people who follow simple principle - always the best at any cost. I can do that, but is NL really the best? No astronomy, no close focusing. Eye relief very important. Large FOV ’yes’, good at poor light ’yes’. Physical size and weight, not that important.Welcome to BF, Arvaja. NL (or older models of EL/SLC) offer closer focus. NL/ELSV have flat field, most important for astronomy; the field of SLC or older EL is still lovely and fully usable. EL is 8.5x, and open bridge. NL has wider field of view. SLC has slower focusing... and is rapidly disappearing. All are excellent, so what matters to you, and at what cost?
Glad you found that SLC, Alphafan. Great, aren't they? I discovered the final SLC 42 models last year and to be honest quite like the focus wheel and the low gearing along with all the many pleasing features you mention. I think it is the higher contrast that can make them seem sharper than the ELs but I think the resolution in both cases is going to be better than our eyes can resolve! Personally, like you, it's the colours and easy view that I love — that and the contrast and compact but muscular handling. Enjoy yours!Been comparing the ELs in just about every deliberate binocular purchase since they first came out over 20 years ago. Always went in with high hopes. The optics generally looked razor sharp and brilliant, but no matter how many times I returned “rolling ball effect” broke the deal for me.
Recently did a thorough side-by-side of NL Pures, ELs, SLC, and SFs. Of the SWs I actually like the SLC the best. In fact, in comparison to the NLs and SFs the ELs view appeared more restrictive than the SLC (likely due to FF) and the ELs gave the most RB effect. The biggest weakness with the SLC has always been the focus wheel, but the optics are fantastic and a very easy view - crystal clear with high contrast and vivid colors. Also, they handle more like a mid-sized glass and I don’t tire from using them, which makes it an easier choice for me. That’s something I don’t hear talked about much with the NL Pures. Although they have spectacular optics and ergonomic engineering for hand positioning, I found they began to feel heavy (30+ oz) after using them for a little while.
Additionally want to report some good fortune. Although they are sold out everywhere I stumbled onto a new pair of 8x42s I noticed buried in the back of a display case. Guy said he wanted to move that discontinued model and sold them to me at unheard of discount. Used them a few hours yesterday and other than some slight skidding with the focus wheel they are fantastic.