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Slovenia - Yellowhammer and Water Pipit? (1 Viewer)

Paul Collins

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Hi,

My friend saw these birds yesterday in Slovenia, respectively on Mali Stol and Mangartsko Setlo.

Is this a juvenile Yellowhammer? If so, why?

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And is this a Water Pipit? This bird is apparently very common on Mt Mangart but the bird seems to be in full winter plumage despite it being August.

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Many thanks,

Paul
 

Simon Wates

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Tricky - probably why you've had no replies - come on guys and Jane! ;) Photos 2 and 3 seem to show Water Pipit - a juv. with growing tail feathers but the lack of an obvious super is bothering me. The first photo has me foxed - that yellow/orange colour must be a photo artefact - any more pics?
 

Coronatus

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For me the first is another Pipit. The yellow may be a camera problem?
As to whether they are Water Pipits, the pink legs bother me.
 

kuzeycem

Medicinal Birding
Turkey
The first one has a bunting bill and typical ear-crescent of Emberiza buntings. I would guess it to be a dull Yellowhammer, or maybe a juvenile male acquiring colours?
 

Paul Collins

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I've uploaded 3 more photos of the bunting, offering different angles from the previous photos. The yellow is the colouration of the bird and not a camera artefact or edit distortion.

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As for the pipit, meadow pipit is a passage migrant in Slovenia. Water Pipit is a common breeding species on Mangart. This bird was seen at almost 2,100 metres high in the Julian Alps.

Meadow Pipit also seems to be out of range here. See attached Birdguides distribution map.
 

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Simon Wates

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Seeing these new photos its clearly (as Kuzeykem says) an Emberiza and Yellowhammer seems the most likely - I defer though!

I can't see a Meadow Pipit (no obvious flank streaking for eg) for the other bird and Water seems the best fit - not completely sure about its aging - maybe a moulting adult - the lack of a clear super is worrying and could be due to post breeding moult (?).
 

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