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Small flycatcher from lowland Peru (1 Viewer)

Thibaud

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Hi again,

I'm confused by this flycatcher, seen in degraded riparian forest, on the edge of a chacra, about 400 masl.
As usual, this was in eastern Pasco (central Peru).
It looks like it had an injury (missing an eye?) and the whole face looks a bit odd. I can't tell if that's a black brow or part of the injury.
Occam's razor says this is a Tolmomyias, but the jizz almost reminds me of Todirostrum..
What say the experts?

Many thanks as always.
T
 

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THE_FERN

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Hi again,

I'm confused by this flycatcher, seen in degraded riparian forest, on the edge of a chacra, about 400 masl.
As usual, this was in eastern Pasco (central Peru).
It looks like it had an injury (missing an eye?) and the whole face looks a bit odd. I can't tell if that's a black brow or part of the injury.
Occam's razor says this is a Tolmomyias, but the jizz almost reminds me of Todirostrum..
What say the experts?

Many thanks as always.
T

A difficult flycatcher: surely not! On balance, my best guess is grey-crowned fly.

For me, this is the wrong shape and colour pattern to be a tody-fly. Of the others, suggest it's between yellow-margined and grey-crowned fly. The bird is clearly ill or disabled which doesn't help

I see a bill which is darker from around halfway to tip with a paler lower mandible. In pic 2 I see a sunken pale eye. There is a pale lore with dark above. The yellow underparts are quite uniform including the chin. There are yellow edges to the flight feathers but these are muted, not extensive. In combination I think these rule out yellow-margined.
 

THE_FERN

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Looking at photos in Birds of the World, some of them are reasonably close.

Niels

Yeah but there are about 3+ things which are all vaguely close. It's especially difficult as many characters are difficult to see---you might well disagree with my interpretation of them
 

pbjosh

missing the neotropics
Switzerland
I agree this is definitely a Tolmomyias. I think you can eliminate Yellow-margined and I suspect it's Gray-crowned but hard to be certain between it isn't Yellow-olive, as the riparian subsp in that part of the Amazon is very similar to Gray-crowned.
 

THE_FERN

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I agree this is definitely a Tolmomyias. I think you can eliminate Yellow-margined and I suspect it's Gray-crowned but hard to be certain between it isn't Yellow-olive, as the riparian subsp in that part of the Amazon is very similar to Gray-crowned.

Agree: if I'm right about bill colours and eye colour suggest that should swing it...
 

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