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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steve C" data-source="post: 3169254" data-attributes="member: 56622">So, how does one define design?  For instance say Steve builds his dream house.  For the appropriates part of this analogy relative to the OP, what happens when Steve has Acme Construction come build this house.  Does the Logging Division of Acme go harvest and get their own lumber?  Does the Pluming division of Acme build the plumbing pipes and fixtures?  Does the Electrical division of Acme build the appliances and manufacture the electrical wiring?  Does Acme Construction do anything but get the needed materials from whatever source that offers them.  So, does Acme Construction build my house or do they assemble my house?So this is my dream house and I've put a LOT of thought into it.  I'm not an architect, but I do have a unique set of plans for my house.  There are things there very unlikely to be found in other houses, after all, it's my dream house.  But for all that, it has the same things found in all houses.  There is a foundation, floors, walls, ceilings, rooms, insulation, electrical wiring, appliances, rooms, a roof, windows, doors, all common to houses.  So did I design my house?Taking Chosun's design comment, how much leeway is there to anyone in designing a Schmidt-Pechan roof prism binocular, or an Abbe-Koening, or a porro?  They have been around for a long time, so how much can a designer really do?  Or stated another way, how much is left to be done with the proven designs?  Does she mean tweak the design with different glass types and coatings for extracting yet another bit of performance from the design?  Or does it mean somebody needs to get off top dead center and design something different?Does she mean somebody needs to design a wider range of ergonomics features?  Does she mean something like what we see the new kid on the block, Maven Optics, is doing with offering some exterior options?The devil's advocate awaits opinions <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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