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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nixterdemus" data-source="post: 3655666" data-attributes="member: 96265">So many Trinovid HD/Pre-HD/Before pre-HD threads. What's a poor schmuck to do? Then youse have the Conquest HD or the Nikon HG for comparison. No sign of allbinos coming to the rescue any time soon either. Of course for those requiring little nudge there is Outdoor Life, Editor's Choice 2016, along w/American Hunter and the unnamed 8.5X42 alpha from six years prior as a standard from which to judge. R-i-g-h-t...I try not to read too much into such. Especially since me auld eyes might not be sharp enough to distinguish differences nor mind quick to recognize a carnival barker's spiel. Some rags nevah ran across a product they didn't love or would criticize.W/EP of 5.25 or larger it takes a bit to fully acclimate. At 4.2 I'm fairly spot on from the get-go. Plus, lately I've been enjoying 8.5X45 7* FOV. A nice change of pace from 12X-22X. The 10X42 HD lists right at 6.5* FOV w/extra 1.5X punch. Whilst perusing vendors I noticed a Trinovid 10x42 HD listed as very good condition w/damaged package. I presume a return never registered. At $770 + tax it didn't appear to be much of a deal. I passed, but came back this morn. They dropped to $735, still w/tax, but offered free two day shipping and 5% back on the CC. Now I'm under seven & half bills thinking this might be a decent deal. Dependent on the shape of the bin which I expect to be immaculate or thereabouts. Of course, I would be banking on being the only owner to register the bin as second garners no extended protection. What else would I snag, a Tract Toric splurging the diff at a steakhouse? Three-fourths of a G is me limit.Even if it isn't the highly touted nearly religiously vaunted 2011-2015 "real" Trinny Leica I wouldn't lose any sleep over lack of merit. I'd return the bin before breakin' a sweat worrying about how well it stack up against older models. Besides, I can see advantage in  5.3 ft/1.6 m minimum focus weighing in at 25.75 oz / 730 g.As to the original topic the 10X42 HD for me as it's light enough plus short minimum focus. The small amount of fov is a wash one way or the other. Doesn't hurt I suppose that it was the only one I ran across fitting the budget.ETA: So I do not embrace the center diopter focus of lore. I've no bias as I've never owned a Leica. [I borrowed a peek one time from an older gent that first asked, "You're not going to run off w/them are you"? Ha!] As long as it works properly it's fine by me.The light weight, the 15mm ER, [I've come to loathe high ER as I feel as if I'm looking through two toilet paper rolls] along w/close focus. Not as close as the 32mm models, yet close enough for the extra EP. Plus, extra 5* afov[simple method 64.5 Vs. 59.5] & 1.5X over the Super slammy.Plus, I wish to view this entry level 10X42 Trinovid against the 10x40 Conquest ABK, 8.5X52 HG Minox [especially low lying overcast daytime] a somewhat aging 10x45 Optolyth Royal B/GA & from the Royal era, yet another example of Japanese craftsmanship in the heavy metal Weaver Super Slam 8.5X45 [almost 32 oz & only 6-7mm shorter than the ABK 10X40] that save for the edge is most oblivious to CA whilst walking 'er 'round winter sun. Dimensions (W x H x D) Trinovid HD 42mm4.6 x 5.5 x 2.6 in140 x 117 x 65 mm [should be 117 x 140 x 65 ]I presume height [eyecups collapsed to end beyond objectives] is 140 mm/5.5", so Conquest 10x40 is 153/6" leaving the SS right at 160 mm/6.3". The bin must show me more than sportin' a red dot on top of a barrel to hang around. I'll wager it fares well w/CA against the ABK prisms both 10X, most certainly better than the HG, but falls short agin the 1.5X less SS that's going on nine years of age. Interestingly enough the SS originally sold for around a grand though many didn't sell. If one gent is to be believed, that no longer haunts the forum, it was one run und done.Surely mucho bin de las tres novalties will have no problem sparring w/7* 8.5X45 hunting bin w/almost a decade under its technological belt, eh? As a tribute to Leica the SS has an oval brass tag on top of the right barrel towards the objective. No, it isn't rouge, but it proclaims, Weaver. A tip o' the hat perhaps w/wish of being associated w/alpha brand.Now, the red dot follows the rising sun to the Pacific rim.<a href="https://us.leica-camera.com/Company/Press-Centre/Press-Releases/2015/Press-Release-New-Trinovid-HD" target="_blank">https://us.leica-camera.com/Company/Press-Centre/Press-Releases/2015/Press-Release-New-Trinovid-HD</a>The benefits at a glance - Outstanding optical performance- Compact and lightweight- Extremely robust- Perfect ergonomics- Attractive design- Excellent value for moneyI'll take 1 & 6 over 2 though low weight/small size is certainly advantageous. Besides, the portly SS certainly cannot compete at #2. 3<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />All in fun as the Trinovid HD should show superiority everywhere, except perhaps CA, to the SS. There are no credible reviews of the SS that I can find save me eyes. But, will the ayes have it?Come to think of it there's neither such review of the Trinovid HD 42 & they have been out for about roughly two years?</blockquote>

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