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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vectis Birder" data-source="post: 1717681" data-attributes="member: 43690">Totally agreed. It's frustrating as it shows how that the minority, such as these people in the pictures Jane has provided can show us all up in a bad light. Please don't tar us all with the same brush, Bubbs.FWIW, I have not had any bother in hides with other birders or photographers and, as someone who enjoys photography (and, yes, I have a largish lens), I squash myself up into a corner and do my best not to obstruct things for other people. I am not saying that some people don't make life awkward for others, but that happens in any walk of life; it's not just birders and/or photographers at fault.  Yeah, me too. I wish that the top-of-the-range big lenses and cameras were affordable. Even on credit, unless you're earning a decent wage, then the repayments on these are quite hefty.The guys in the OP, I wonder if they're BF members? This will soon become a very interesting discussion if they are. It' be interesting to see what they have to say for themselves.</blockquote>