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Message: <blockquote data-quote="birdingintas" data-source="post: 1718406" data-attributes="member: 83022">There are small minorities (not majorities) that can give every hobby a bad name. Most birders that I personally know actually enjoy combining photography with serious birding. Some are also "old school" birders, and have large and expensive camera lenses and cameras capable of taking multiple fps. This has no bearing at all on whether they practice proper field craft and are courteous to their fellow birders. I note also originally you said "Photographers, and some birdwatchers" - it's some photographers and some birdwatchers.It's a shame you've encountered bad behaviour often in your area but that doesn't justify or validate your statements.  It's both offensive and unnecessary to label 'camera owners' or 'photographers' in this way.Jane has brought to everyones attention poor and disappointing behaviour which is demonstrated by a minority - and as already stated it may be that these people do not fully understand the impact they can have - they require an education in the matter either way.Anyone else agree?</blockquote>