south of Iraq - near to Basrah - warbler ID (1 Viewer)

[yashar1981yr]

dears
Please help me to ID these birds

1~4 same bird ( reed warbler or marsh or ...)
5,6 Clamorous Reed Warbler or Basra reed warbler or ...

also, there are some pictures that I think its common Nightingale or thrush Nightingale
( 7~10)

please tell me about ID code that I have to to pay attention to

 

[yashar1981yr]

one more pic from the last bird

 

[Tote]

1-4 Not sure
5-6 It seems a Great Reed Warbler to me. Overall colour, face marks, strong bill, well-spaced primaries.
7-11 A greyer Common Nightingale. Among other subtle "field marks", wing-tip=P3

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

1-4 Not sure
5-6 It seems a Great Reed Warbler to me. Overall colour, face marks, strong bill, well-spaced primaries.
7-11 A greyer Common Nightingale. Among other subtle "field marks", wing-tip=P3

Agree with Tote but would add 7-11 looks good for 2cy Common Nightingale ssp africana. ; golzii should be excluded by combination of dark lores, ear coverts and upperparts, the worn, pale tips to coverts (median and greater) and upper tail coverts confirm age. Further, p2=p4/5 which is a tad long for golzii, rather than p2=(5/6) 6.

Grahame

 

[yashar1981yr]

there are 2 photos & 1 video from the first bird
I hope it will help to ID the first one

 

[Parker]

Great Reed warbler, note the heavy bill thick legs & long wings.
Also in the video it moves move deliberately & slower than smaller warblers.

 

[yashar1981yr]

Great Reedarble wr, note the heavy bill thick legs & long wings.
Also in the video it moves move deliberately & slower than smaller warblers.

dear parker
As for the size of the bird, I am almost certain that it was about 12 to 13 centimeters, and on the other hand, the second bird that was identified as the "Great Reed warbler" is present in the area and can be seen much larger than this.

the small one is shown in the attached pictures
what's your idea about these

 

[Parker]

Hi Yashar,

Unfortunately I haven’t had the use of a laptop for almost a year which means I’m viewing these photos on a very small screen.
The id of the Great Reed was fairly straightforward looking at the video which shows the fairly fierce look as well as the other points I mentioned.

As to the last bird the undertail coverts are long which fits with an acrocephalus warbler. The bill is fairly long & slim so I would suggest Reed Warbler, I think Marsh can be ruled out as the bill is to slim long & pointed. However other more experienced members with a decent size screen may have a different view.

I hope this helps.

 

[yashar1981yr]

Hi Yashar,

Unfortunately I haven’t had the use of a laptop for almost a year which means I’m viewing these photos on a very small screen.
The id of the Great Reed was fairly straightforward looking at the video which shows the fairly fierce look as well as the other points I mentioned.

As to the last bird the undertail coverts are long which fits with an acrocephalus warbler. The bill is fairly long & slim so I would suggest Reed Warbler, I think Marsh can be ruled out as the bill is to slim long & pointed. However other more experienced members with a decent size screen may have a different view.

I hope this helps.

It was definitely useful, you are absolutely right and I think I was wrong about the size of the bird in the video, but about the last three photos, the size of the bird was about 12 or 13 cm and other friends agree with Reed Warbler.