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Mike Richardson

Formerly known as Skink1978
Thanks Sal and Dave for the quick replies.

The reserve may have been more of a sanctuary. I certainly wouldn't count the game animals as I'm pretty sure they were looked after by people, at least some of the time.

The Baboons were probably free to leave so I think I'll count them for now, just as I added the birds I saw to my list.

I hope I can contribute more to this thread in the future. Southern Africa is high on my list to visit again in the not too distant future. I loved Botswana and enjoyed a very brief visit to Namibia.

Thanks again
 

Dryocopus

Was Eagle before...still am in life!
Dryocopus - a leopard for you, seen at Sabie Sands . . . .

I do mean to write a bit about the birds there, but have a rush job on at the moment which is why I haven't been into the forum for a few days. Just taking a little break . . . .

Wow! Leopards - I am not sure whather to be hurt or pleased by your photos! LOL!
Missing the Leopard was a big downer for me - but more when I got home! At the timeyou just never knew what was around any corner - and we might have seen the Leopard that hunted the local felines in St Lucia and was heard jumping on the roof of the garage at the Hotel where we stayed - not when we were there tho!

Lovely photo's btw Sal! Thanks.
 

Martin Hobbs

Well-known member
Hi all


While birding the reserve I came across a party of Chacma Baboons. My question is would these creatures count as ‘wild’? Presumably they could climb the fences, feed themselves, leave the park etc.


PS I enjoy reading this thread and dreaming of South Africa.

Mike,
welcome to the forum.
As Sal has mentioned, we certainly regard Baboons as wild, and not only in fenced Game Reserves. Take a drive outside a metropolitan area in Southern Africa and you will at some point on the journey see Baboons (and Vervet Monkeys) along the road side or in the veld close to the road. They are like birds in the sense that they roam where ever they fell comfortable to roam.

Have you a list of the birds spotted whilst on your vacation. I love Botswana and particularly around Maun as I used to spend a lot of time on business up there, however, Dave has visited the Okovango on several occasions so he will be more able to discuss northern Botswana more than I could.
Hope to hear more from you going forward...

Martin
 

Martin Hobbs

Well-known member
Kruger- Punda Maria

We arrived at Punda Maria after a 7 hour rather grey and rainy trip from JHB and not the sort of start to the holiday that our visitors Gary and Jane, from the UK were looking for, even though at 27c, it was still 29c higher than when they left England!
After the booking in and usual unpacking and sorting out we headed out along the Mahonie loop driving in an anti-clockwise direction. After only a few hundred metres a shout of “stop” came from the back seat and as I looked around for a mammal of some sort I was very pleasantly surprised to hear the immortal words...”what’s that bird?”... I didn’t need a second invitation and from then on proceeded to attempt to enlighten our visitors to every bird we came across. Jane is a very keen photographer and her camera and assorted lenses showed that she meant business. She became fascinated by the variety and colours of our birds and as the holiday wore on her interest in our birds and photographing them increased. Needles to say I had no objection to her new interest. To keep Gary interested he had a check list of all the birds that they would see which he dutifully completed (with Jane’s help) which at the end of the trip amounted to 194 sightings for them both.
Suffice to say I won’t mention all the birds we saw as we started from Cape Turtle Doves and moved on from there! Notables included (bold are new spots for me) African Cuckoo, Dusky Lark, Pale Flycatcher, flocks of Red-billed Quelea, Yellow-bellied Greenbul, Tawny Eagle, Brown-Snake Eagle, Yellow-billed Kite, and near the end of the loop near the camp I heard parrots in a tree not far from the road. I told everybody in the car it would be Brown-headed, but after the first of the Parrots appeared I realised that it wasn’t Brown-headed but what I thought was Cape Parrots. After getting a clear sight of them I still thought it was Cape Parrots and studying Newman’s it wasn’t supposed to be here. Only later did I realise it was the Grey-headed Parrot (Poicephalus Suahelicus). Very pleased with this sighting we joined the H13-2 into Punda Maria Camp and spotted a stunning juvenile Martial Eagle perched in a tree close to the road and it seemed every dead tree along the road had something perched in them, including African Green Pigeons, European and Lilac-breasted Rollers, Red-backed Shrikes, Tambourine Doves, and then a Broad-billed Roller just before the gate.
It was a balmy evening as dusk fell and as we walked down towards the restaurant I kept my head pointing towards the darkening red sky for the elusive Bat Hawk which is said to be resident here, but alas, no luck, even though the bats started to emerge from a hole under the roof of the kitchen building. Sitting at one of the tables outside under the Baobab tree we listened to Scops Owl and Square-tailed and Fiery-necked Nightjars. It was very good to be back in KNP.
Martin
 

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Sal

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Aaahh! Broad-billed Roller and Grey-headed Parrot Great pics BTW). These would be new ticks for me!But I'm unlikely to go up there in the summer . . . . How lucky that your visitors turned out to be so interested in birds. Even right up there everything looks green. I am planning our Kruger trip for 2011. We think we are going in at Phalaborwa to Shimuwini , then to Mopane, down to Satara and finally to Biyamiti. This is a compromise. When we are able to spend more time travelling, we shall go to Punda and work our way down. At the moment work doesn't allow this and we are not willing to sacrifice one precious night in the park for one somewhere else to enable us to get to the north.

Look forward to more . . . .
 

Sal

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Wow! Leopards - I am not sure whather to be hurt or pleased by your photos! LOL!
Missing the Leopard was a big downer for me - but more when I got home! At the timeyou just never knew what was around any corner - and we might have seen the Leopard that hunted the local felines in St Lucia and was heard jumping on the roof of the garage at the Hotel where we stayed - not when we were there tho!

Lovely photo's btw Sal! Thanks.

Then I won't mention how long we spent with them! Next time maybe you'll have the luck and see them.
 

Sal

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I hope I can contribute more to this thread in the future. Southern Africa is high on my list to visit again in the not too distant future. I loved Botswana and enjoyed a very brief visit to Namibia.

Thanks again

:t: great Mike, look forward to hearing from you.
 

Allan Hobbs

Body in the UK, heart in South Africa
It was very good to be back in KNP.[/SIZE][/FONT]
Martin

I am soooo jealous. I hope you had a great time (but as you never answer your phone I'll have to rely on this forum :-C)

I really want to spend some time in Punda in the summer and see the birds. The few days we spent there a few winters ago were just not enough.

Now all I have to do is persuade Catherine that it won't be too hot!

Allan
 

Mike Richardson

Formerly known as Skink1978
Mike,
welcome to the forum.
As Sal has mentioned, we certainly regard Baboons as wild, and not only in fenced Game Reserves. Take a drive outside a metropolitan area in Southern Africa and you will at some point on the journey see Baboons (and Vervet Monkeys) along the road side or in the veld close to the road. They are like birds in the sense that they roam where ever they fell comfortable to roam.

Have you a list of the birds spotted whilst on your vacation. I love Botswana and particularly around Maun as I used to spend a lot of time on business up there, however, Dave has visited the Okovango on several occasions so he will be more able to discuss northern Botswana more than I could.
Hope to hear more from you going forward...

Martin

Thanks Martin.

I saw some great birds in Botswana, but I was only just getting into birding at the time. I was in the country to volunteer on a Crocodile research project for a couple of weeks. A brief report is on my website (link under my signature) if you're interested.

I will be certainly returning to Africa, although I will probably explore South Africa this time. Mammals will be by main target, although I'm interested in birds and reptiles also. It's the smaller mammals that interest me most (Honey Badger, Mongoose, Genets etc).

I've added the Baboons to my mammal list.

Thanks again
 

Sal

Well-known member
Hi Mike, just read your Botswana report - very interesting. You saw some great birds and you've got a good start to your Southern African bird list
 

Martin Hobbs

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Back from our travels

Hi Everyone,
We are back from our travels.
We spent 5 days in St. Lucia and two days in the Drakensburg.
I have 2 (maybe 3, I am waiting for confirmation) new sightings from St. Lucia which I am a bit disappointed about, I saw huge numbers of birds, but very little was new to me…….maybe my expectations were too high following previous trips to here, anyway, it was very pleasant and our visitors were very happy to be at the seaside with clean sandy beaches and swimming in the Indian Ocean!! However it was hot and humid and the sand was far too hot to walk on bare foot!!

New sightings:
Avocet
Red-winged Pratincole

We decided to visit the Drakensburg on the way home to JHB for an overnight stay, which proved to be very interesting and worthwhile. The scenery is truly awe inspiring.

I had 7 new sightings here:
Forest Canary
Southern Pochard
Drakensburg Prinia
White-necked Raven
Lesser Double-collared Sunbird
Malachite Sunbird
Olive Woodpecker

I am still busy trying to get to update the Kruger visit.

Martin
 

Sal

Well-known member
Hi Martin, nine new sightings in one trip is not too dusty. Wait till you get to the stage where you hardly ever get one! Red-winged Pratincole would have been a new one for me and the other sightings are great birds. Where in the Drakensberg did you go? it's all very lovely but I have to admit that Thendele at Royal Natal is my favourite place to stay. Nice birding there too.
 

Dave Kennedy

Well-known member
Hi Everyone,
We are back from our travels.
We spent 5 days in St. Lucia and two days in the Drakensburg.
I have 2 (maybe 3, I am waiting for confirmation) new sightings from St. Lucia which I am a bit disappointed about, I saw huge numbers of birds, but very little was new to me…….

Maybe you're just too good a birder, Martin! You've obviously got a pretty substantial list for the area already.
The Collared Pratincole is a great sighting. My first CP was also in the St Lucia area, half-way along the old road to Cape Vidal. We stopped to check out a shallow pan with muddy edges, and there they were.
Best wishes,
Dave
 

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