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<blockquote data-quote="Stewart J." data-source="post: 1695528" data-attributes="member: 4887"><p><span style="color: Navy">Totally agree that looks deliberate however the whalers have alleged that the A Gil had repeatedly tried to deploy something along the lines of a rope to disable their rudder prop. Do you think, in terms of criminal liability, an argument could be made that ramming a boat trying to compromise one's steering and power in the seas down there was a legitimate self-defence act?</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black">Hi Isurus, there are International Rules on the prevention of collisions in summary:-</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed">This Notice and the Rules referred to in it are an integral part of the Merchant Shipping (Distress</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed">Signals and Prevention of Collisions) Regulations 1996, which came into force on 1 May 1996. These</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed">Regulations implement the Convention on the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed">Sea, 1972, as amended. They enhance safe navigation, by prescribing the conduct of vessels underway,</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed">specify the display of internationally-understood lights and sound signals and set out collision</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed">avoidance actions in close quarter situations.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black">They can be found in full here:- (heavy reading!)</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"><a href="http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/msn_1781-2.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/msn_1781-2.pdf</a></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black">So no, there is no justification for intentional ramming end endangering life etc, the larger steel whaler should have hove too and awaited events I feel sure the A Gil would have gotten fed up and tried elsewhere. I am not condoning the antics of Sea Shepherds vessels they do regularly flaunt the international rules of the sea and come across as having little professionalism but by so doing they do bring this sorry stance on whaling to the attention of the "civilised world"</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black">Neither side is whiter than white but the whalers deliberate act should not go unpunished property and more importantly lives were endangered.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black">There is an interesting debate on this incident on BF's sister forum Ships Nostalgia, link to thread here:-</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"><a href="http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=31521" target="_blank">http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=31521</a> </span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black">Stewart</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><span style="color: Black"><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stewart J., post: 1695528, member: 4887"] [COLOR=Navy]Totally agree that looks deliberate however the whalers have alleged that the A Gil had repeatedly tried to deploy something along the lines of a rope to disable their rudder prop. Do you think, in terms of criminal liability, an argument could be made that ramming a boat trying to compromise one's steering and power in the seas down there was a legitimate self-defence act? [COLOR=Black]Hi Isurus, there are International Rules on the prevention of collisions in summary:- [COLOR=DarkRed]This Notice and the Rules referred to in it are an integral part of the Merchant Shipping (Distress Signals and Prevention of Collisions) Regulations 1996, which came into force on 1 May 1996. These Regulations implement the Convention on the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea, 1972, as amended. They enhance safe navigation, by prescribing the conduct of vessels underway, specify the display of internationally-understood lights and sound signals and set out collision avoidance actions in close quarter situations. [COLOR=Black]They can be found in full here:- (heavy reading!) [url]http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/msn_1781-2.pdf[/url] So no, there is no justification for intentional ramming end endangering life etc, the larger steel whaler should have hove too and awaited events I feel sure the A Gil would have gotten fed up and tried elsewhere. I am not condoning the antics of Sea Shepherds vessels they do regularly flaunt the international rules of the sea and come across as having little professionalism but by so doing they do bring this sorry stance on whaling to the attention of the "civilised world" Neither side is whiter than white but the whalers deliberate act should not go unpunished property and more importantly lives were endangered. There is an interesting debate on this incident on BF's sister forum Ships Nostalgia, link to thread here:- [url]http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=31521[/url] Stewart [/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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