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Message: <blockquote data-quote="apbarr" data-source="post: 1564021" data-attributes="member: 54711"><p>I agree that if there is any doubt don't count it but if a clear consensus is reached then that's fine.  This is particularly the case when birding out of your comfort zone as I found a couple of times in the States and Canada even although I'd spent three months with my nose in every American field guide I could find before goingB <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />B <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>