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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bryon Wright" data-source="post: 3601639" data-attributes="member: 2304">Hi all,kasfig you have elucidated the problem regarding  head shape and bill proportion. Lesser rarely adopts the pose as in #1. The thighs\tibia in #1 do look nearly as  long as in GSP.  Noticed that previously, people here were hesitant with these even though there is so much information now. I think the main problem is that  observers from the middle-eastern  and east Asian areas continually  cross-fertilize and confuse  the basic  identification criteria. Without going into the various forms #1 is a perfect example of a Far Eastern,  LSP. The LSP also invariably flock unlike a lot of GSP, so a lone LSP is often a problem for me. Even in Australia where it should be relatively easy to distinguish both, at times it can be so confusing. Ringing calls of LSP in unison are a relief.</blockquote>