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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Purcell" data-source="post: 1504238" data-attributes="member: 68323"><p>The Peregrine XP 8x44. The Peregrine 8x42 (I think, certainly 8x).</p><p></p><p>Though hunters swear blind that more weight makes things steadier there seems to be scant evidence for that. A human holding a bin is an active system not a damped spring with a mass on the top. Vukobratovich's paper on bins seem to back this up too. How you grip the bins seems to have a bigger impact.</p><p></p><p>Personally I don't like > 24oz bins around my neck. BUt I may be a wimp! I'd rather wear them on a harness (then I can use them all day without any problems).</p><p></p><p>The bin weight does count when you are holding them up especially above the horizontal. Then again the less wimpy may have less of a problem!</p><p></p><p>HOWEVER ... </p><p></p><p>All that said (back to the thread topic) don't choose between these based on weight: they are very different bins. </p><p></p><p>IMHO I though the Peregrine (non-XP) was mediocre ($1000 with fold down rubber eyecups and a not great view, WTF?). The XP is in a different class: a fraction better than a Zen Ray ED with it's more neutral color balance (but for $1200 more with a worse warranty). </p><p></p><p>These are two bins with names that differ by two letters but performance difference that is significant. THough I think there are better deals elsewhere.</p><p></p><p>I really should add my review notes to this thread ... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Purcell, post: 1504238, member: 68323"] The Peregrine XP 8x44. The Peregrine 8x42 (I think, certainly 8x). Though hunters swear blind that more weight makes things steadier there seems to be scant evidence for that. A human holding a bin is an active system not a damped spring with a mass on the top. Vukobratovich's paper on bins seem to back this up too. How you grip the bins seems to have a bigger impact. Personally I don't like > 24oz bins around my neck. BUt I may be a wimp! I'd rather wear them on a harness (then I can use them all day without any problems). The bin weight does count when you are holding them up especially above the horizontal. Then again the less wimpy may have less of a problem! HOWEVER ... All that said (back to the thread topic) don't choose between these based on weight: they are very different bins. IMHO I though the Peregrine (non-XP) was mediocre ($1000 with fold down rubber eyecups and a not great view, WTF?). The XP is in a different class: a fraction better than a Zen Ray ED with it's more neutral color balance (but for $1200 more with a worse warranty). These are two bins with names that differ by two letters but performance difference that is significant. THough I think there are better deals elsewhere. I really should add my review notes to this thread ... ;) [/QUOTE]
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